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 Originally Posted by kmind
My mistake about the dick thing then but you seemed to focus on just me when almost everyone else mentioned it too.
no worries dude. I didn't ask d0zer cos we all know he's just my gimmick account, and i didn't ask couriermike cos i had low expectations (hope he doesn't take too much offence at that!)
 Originally Posted by kmind
You're more of an expert at FR than me for sure so you could easily be right. Doublefly is very good, didn't know his cbet was so low. I was going off of databases of winning players I personally know, some comments (or lack off regarding cbet%) in mpethybridge in the small stakes forum at 2+2 and the LeakBuster program in HEM.
I tend to ignore the leakbuster stuff in HEM for Full Ring cos it doesn't really distinguish and mostly applies better to shorthanded play = where the majority of the sampling occurs.
 Originally Posted by kmind
As far as the why, there are a couple of reasons that I do it at least. Pick up dead money while bluffing is the main one because I was having difficulty winning on later streets and found the flop the easiest to either win right away or fire a double barrel. Most players at micro stakes are not going to exploit you and if they try to they do it in the very obvious spots.
yep, those are good reasons. Barreling is such an interesting topic - obviously this sidetrack is already going crazy, i think this is incredibly relevant though. Wonder if it's more so in 6-max where ranges tend to be weaker?
 Originally Posted by kmind
Would also like to hear your thoughts on turn/ river play when your cbet% is smaller.
It's not being exploited for cbetting more that is the problem, it's the being in crap spots oop with air that gets to me.... especially when it's completely predictable that it's going to happen. Thing is, i'm missing out on a lot of one street dead money this way and i'm trying to address this.
Part of my reasoning has been that so many players turn hands face up on the turn vs a missed cbet, others are simply searching for an excuse to spew. Also, cos i have a low c-bet i end up not c-betting some fairly strong hands for balance - this has the effect of further lowering the stat. Thing is, they turn their hands even more faceup on the turn when the pot is big, i just need to look more closely. FWIW I think i need to cbet and barrel more, but i don't cbet 60%
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