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    Hand 1 - I'd cbet with the intention of double barreling.
    Hand 2 - Again, I'd cbet and yeah we probably have the best hand now but I'd rather just bluff now then rely on the board to miss them/hit us.
    Hand 3 - Yeah with no equity I'd just check
    Hand 4 - Checking is fine
    Hand 5 - I'd cbet with that texture
    Hand 6 - I'd check with a ton calling and having no equity
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmind View Post
    Hand 1 - I'd cbet with the intention of double barreling.
    I'm just not really confident I will get TT+ to fold. If he calls the turn with TT+ QK, sets, I need to barrel the river as well. - and there's my story of 100bb stdv imo.

    The 66 on AT9s is one that I used to always cb, and I think I should start again. It's prolly even fine for value against this villain.
    Last edited by oskar; 01-30-2011 at 09:44 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    I'm just not really confident I will get TT+ to fold. If he calls the turn with TT+ QK, sets, I need to barrel the river as well. - and there's my story of 100bb stdv imo.

    The 66 on AT9s is one that I used to always cb, and I think I should start again. It's prolly even fine for value against this villain.
    If they're not folding TT-QQ then yeah for sure don't do it but I think they would be and if not then it's very easy to start value betting more hands ld0.

    The 66 hand yeah if you did cbet it'd be for value but I think if you're going to have any hands that you don't cbet then it might as well be lower PP. I mean every other hand in your range have would have some sort of draw. What would be your non-cbetting range then?

    Edit: daven - would you like me to move some of our discussion to a new topic? And oskar, I know it seems like we derailed a little bit but I think this is still on topic.
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    opening T9o and JTo in MP is where you are spewing.

    not cbetting AK on Q66r also
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micro2Macro View Post
    opening T9o and JTo in MP is where you are spewing.
    Was just going to post this, even for 6m that would be true at these stakes. I would also Cbet a lot more Axx, Kxx, Qxx boards at nit ring vs "make sets get paid" types that may be sitting at a bunch of tables.

    I'd also maybe start posting a bunch of hands with your standard bet sizing for Cbet and barrels too
    Last edited by jyms; 01-30-2011 at 11:36 PM.
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    Oskar, 50k is enough of a sample size to tell if you are currently beating the games or not.


    edit: Would you ever expect to break even over 50k hands at 2nl? No, you would not. Ever.

    So why do you think it is okay that you have broken even at 50nl over the same amount of hands?
    Last edited by cleanup.that; 01-31-2011 at 03:09 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micro2Macro View Post
    opening T9o and JTo in MP is where you are spewing.
    Quite possible. I'll run some filters on that. Last time I checked it was fine... but the times they are a changing.
    edit: Out of 133 hands of 9T, JT in mp3/HJ I raised 44 and every time I was either isolating or there were droolers in the blinds. I'll keep looking for borderline hands tho.

    not cbetting AK on Q66r also
    oh idk about that. Two unnkown gaystacks who limp/called in lp? What's the point? I might fold out 22-55 sometimes but that's about it.
    Last edited by oskar; 01-31-2011 at 08:08 AM.
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