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 Originally Posted by Robb
Originally Posted by iopq
fuck I did my calculations wrong he has to fold a bit more than I calculated
really?
Originally Posted by iopq
also Axs is better for 5b bluffing when called, but he'll have less AK in his range
when you comin' back to 50nl FR at Full Tilt? 
5b bluffing with A5s is better because of blockers
(call chance) * (200BB * 26.6% = 52.3BB) is our value for getting called
(1 - call chance) * (132BB) is our folding equity
(132BB - 132BB*C) + 52.3BB*C = 88BB is the breakeven point
44BB = 79.7BB*C
call chance has to be more than 55.2% for the shove to be unprofitable
so someone has to fold to our shove more than 44.8% of the time
say you 4b AK, QQ+ and call KK+
if I am holding A5s, you have 12 AK, 6 QQ, 6 KK, 3 AA
you'll be folding 66% of the time
conclusion: it's retarded to 4b and fold good hands if your opponent can 5b bluff you
I'd say if you're 4b AK and QQ, you should call a shove or maybe reconsidering 4betting
and Robb, you're welcome to sit at my 50 NL HU table any time
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