Quote Originally Posted by kb coolman
Quote Originally Posted by drmcboy
no, your opp did when he bet 1/3 of the pot instead of 5/6 like he did in your first example. if he bets whatever 5/6 of 10 is you have the same price but less implied odds so your situation is a bit worse. this doesn't mean it's a bad play, just that we haven't given ourselves anything.
yes, opp gives you odds to chase. But he bets pot in my example. Where are you getting 1/3?

And what I was building was a case where we can semi-bluff with fold equity to profitably call a pot sized bet.
In your second example where villain raises, if the pot is $3, and you bet $2, the pot is now $5. If villain raises the $5, the pot is now $10, and you must call $3. Therefore, you are getting >3:1 on a call. Which is basically the same as betting 1/3 of the pot. I believe this is where drmcboy is getting that.