Quote Originally Posted by SHAKE
Quote Originally Posted by pokerroomace
in response to SHAKE.

i'm referring more to online play (where you can't outplay the fish as much because you don't have physical tells to go on).

but, even for offline play, i think that by slowplaying AA preflop you as often as 1 in 4, you are losing a lot of value.

and also, i don't care that it might happen to you once a week. that's not the point. the point is to play optimum poker the whole time. i will be dealt AA more than 4 times a day sometimes online. also, if you are playing AA like this, you may also be playing hands like KK and other hands in a less than optimum way.

also, you do know that AA has a 50% chance of winning against 3 random hands.

by slowplaying AA preflop you become one of the fish.

it is true you want fish to get money in the pot. and you do that by raising! and not letting them in cheap!

i think this might be a fundamental flaw in your game. if you were openlimping AA 25% on the button online i would say this is definitely 100% a huge leak. and i would instantly note you down as a fish if i saw you make this play.
Im sorry but your logic is flawed and your just plain wrong. I thin you should read ace on the river, some caro, and som isues of poker news. Your just thinking the wrong way. gl though, making money.....i dont need it.
lol. ok. thanks for the luck which everybody needs!

who can back me up on this?

i think you are wrong. not: you have a point wrong, but just plain 100% wrong.

i'm not going to carry on this discussion. you'll realize 1 hand day that openlimping AA 25% of the time on the button in 100bb poker is a flaw in your game.
and it spreads throughout your game. you're the sort of player (i'm guessing) that will check-call, check-call, check-raise a set as a default line.
or check-check, check-check, bet river.

you have a lot to learn about value betting my friend