What's your normal variance at NL25?

Hey guys,just curious what do you guys tend to experience as a normal variance per se at NL25(or your level);and how much a manic varies it.Currently I am down 3 buyins though 10,000 hands(some of it my fault,some on go broke hands aka Top Two vs Set twice,etc) and I was curious to know how you guys do with your NL rollercoasters.

Thanks guys;I learn something new at FTR every day.I want to become as good as Fnord/Renton/etc one day myself and play some professional NL25.

I've found that my variance per session (4 tabling Party 25NL) is usually between +/- 3 buy-ins.

Ok I feel better.......so how are the upswings than?A buyin here,a triple up there?I figure if I play break even at worse for the last 200 raked hands I'll still make a decent profit from the bonus.

Correction:I have $982;so my actual downswing tonight was about $18.Remember that I had Top Two Pair run into a set,and my QQ lost to ATo on a pot committed flop.I did double up twice once with KK vs the same ATo dude,and one Two Pair vs a moron as well.

the most i've been up in one session so far (which is usually about 2 hours or so) is like 3.5 buy-ins. i've only played like 6,000 hands at party 25NL so far though so that might get better - hopefully. my biggest pot so far was when i had about 2 buy-ins and i got 3 others all-in with my AA pre-flop. 2 had KK and 1 had AJ. 1 had about 110BB's. another had about 80BB's and another had like 40BB's. i have yet to lose a large stack.

That's good to hear.Trusat me losing a big stackj even just $30 isn;t fiun.

Originally Posted by WhooFleuryScores

That's good to hear.Trusat me losing a big stackj even just $30 isn;t fiun.

I'm not trying to critique your play here, but if this is over 10k hands then I'd take a closer look at my game. My guess is you're paying off other guys' winners too much?

The way I see it, in the long run, people will flop as many monsters on me as I will flop on them. They will flop as many sets on my TP as I flop sets on their TPs. So my "edge" only comes from me getting paid more when I hit my winners, and more importantly, me not paying off their winners so much.

If 25NL at your site is anything like 20NL at unibet, then it *is* a pretty high variance game though. I'm currently grinding the lower variance 10NL so get rolled for it because I need to be able to catch the downswings..

Originally Posted by jackvance

I'm not trying to critique your play here, but if this is over 10k hands then I'd take a closer look at my game. My guess is you're paying off other guys' winners too much?

He said some of it is his fault.

My variance at 10 NL has been really huge. Today I lost 3 buyins at CD poker in 20 minutes but won 5 buy ins at beginners party poker in the same time! Crazy stuff...Generally I can win 2-3 buy ins in a matter of hours or occasionally drop a couple of buyins pretty quick depending on how often i get a cold deck...

He said some of it is his fault.

That it is.But I am learning.

So my "edge" only comes from me getting paid more when I hit my winners, and more importantly, me not paying off their winners so much.

That's actually a point I'm trying to work on right now.

If 25NL at your site is anything like 20NL at unibet, then it *is* a pretty high variance game though.

I'd say most agree Party NL25 has some serious swings.

Originally Posted by WhooFleuryScores

I'd say most agree Party NL25 has some serious swings.

omg does it ever

aftter playing great today and making 5 buyins, i just lost 1 and a half to some poor cards and poor plays / draws that didnt come to frutition. just gotta manage it is all. grrrr.

My normal variance in one 2-hour session is
-2 / + 6 buy-ins. -2 is very rare, -1 sometimes, break evens quite
often. Ive just 2 months stats but I have win/loss ratio in
sessions 75/25.

If u r down 3 buy-ins in 10k hands, you have to make
changes in your play. I dont think its only variance.

I mean 10 k hands i quite big sample size.

If u r down 3 buy-ins in 10k hands, you have to make
changes in your play. I dont think its only variance.

I reached a little short of 10K hands;right now I fought back to being -$1.50 under.So yeah it looks like I'll need to start making changes in me play.I'll post some PT stats for feedback.