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 Originally Posted by crazycrazy
well that depends on many things not just QQ and lower flop.
-who am i playing,r eads , reads reads
-how deep he is
-what is he doing lately on the table
-stakes
look at my example please. villain is unknown (you can't have a spectacular read on everyone every time). we are both 100bb's deep. it is 100nl.
 Originally Posted by crazycrazy
for example if i think someone is raising his tp on flop then i call him and see turn... if someone is set camping then i can fold right to his minraise...
and we are always able to put unknown villains on ranges that narrow right?
 Originally Posted by crazycrazy
3betting flop is cheaper hm?
to me 3beting wihto verpair is bad for simple reason ur jsut putting much of ur stack with 1 pari after he alread shown some agression.
the discussion is about 3betting the flop vs. calling and leading the turn. 3betting is cheaper than calling and leading the turn. this is a fact. also, if you call and lead the turn you are still putting much of your stack in with 1 pair. are you telling me you always fold your overpairs to dry flop min-raises?
 Originally Posted by crazycrazy
if u 3bet his minraise thats putting like 40BB right there on the flop.. with ur another minraise on the flop its still around 30... and if u 3bet preflop with highpairs then u cant even think about 3betting flop.
look at my example. there is no 3bet preflop.
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