What's the play?

I'm the last 3 in a tourney, i've been playing conservative most of the time, top 2 get money. I get dealt pocket JJ in the BB. The dealer raises 3x BB, the guy in the small blind doubles the raise. My read on both players, and i know well they are my friends, is they are very aggressive. What is your play?

results told later.

What are the stack sizes?

Yeah, stack sizes make a hug difference here... necessary information.

we're all about even.

we're all about even. no one really has a lead over the other.

Um; that didn't quite help. We need stack sizes in relation to the blinds.

But as a general rule (and assuming that you all have at least 15x the BB left after the raises), all in.

before the hand everyone had around 100x the BB

bump

well i ended up going all in, and the guy who initially raised had AA, cost me the tourney.

If you all have ~100xBB, and you are facing a 6xBB raise, im not sure going all in is the best play. You can always make it like 15BB to go and fold to a push which most likely means you are beat. I dont know though as I struggle between finding the right play in situations like this, i dont know if laying it down is too weak. The way I see it though, is someone has to have at least AK here, and I dont want to flip a coin for 100xBB.

Just call this hand. If you catch a J great, otherwise you are most likey out of this hand. Going all-in, with JJ after a raise and a re-raise, when you still have 100x BB left to work with is just reducing your poker game to a lottery.

Originally Posted by BreakfastMan

Just call this hand. If you catch a J great, otherwise you are most likey out of this hand. Going all-in, with JJ after a raise and a re-raise, when you still have 100x BB left to work with is just reducing your poker game to a lottery.

i would agree this is how you play it in a 10 handed ring game.

but we are talking about the final 3 players in a tourney.

people will be reraising with anything to steal the blinds at this point.

If your friends are loose aggressive, just call. If they're tight aggressive reraise. Bottom line is without a guaranteed isolation, raising doesn't accomplish anything but building a pot against your vulnerable jacks. AK unimproved on the flop will stick around in a huge pot.

If you reraise to 15xBB and get called by both, now you have to bet at least 30xBB to chase them out postflop. What if someone has a higher pocket pair than you. Just call and raise a rag flop 12xBB. If you get reraised by a higher pocket then it didn't sting so bad.

Hi ChezJ,

i would agree this is how you play it in a 10 handed ring game.

but we are talking about the final 3 players in a tourney.

people will be reraising with anything to steal the blinds at this point.

This would usually be how a final three would be played, but the odd thing here is that each player has around 100x the big blind. I am not sure how this happened, but with stacks that deep, play would be much more conservative that your usual final three.

IF you have 100 BB there is absolutely NO reason to go all in with jacks there. Unless you KNOW that the other 2 are pulling a wild 72o bluff on you you shouldn't be going all in there.
Personally I'd have called his bet and slowed down on the flop if it looked dangerous in any way, or if he continued to bet like he had an overpair (and I believed him).
With 100 BB there is so much more opportunity for you to play, and take back that little pot in other hands.