What's the most important thing that poker takes you?

Originally Posted by Breezy

Would someone warn me if I do something wrong first before you ban me. lol I can be dense at times.

Breezy, I may be in the same boat as you, man. I mean jayjoe is already banned after only three posts, but Sam Wagenheim with three posts is not. I mean what is the fine line? I see Keith with a hatred of freerollers, but Ferguson and many others have done the zero to $10,000 bankroll challenge. So why the hate on the freerollers? If you lose your bankroll, you freeroll another roll, once you have a new roll you use it to increase your bankroll 5 digits using good bankroll money management.
To me, the most important thing about online poker is luck. I have monied in more of my online tournaments with luck rather than skill. Almost every one of my skill hands that I am ahead on the turn, take me out of the money on the river. Almost every game I have monied in, some weak hand that I have been forced to play, wins some luck way, and it's like I would have never played that hand in a million years, and guess what, luck has me win a totally losing hand. Wow, I am in the money, through no skill of my own. Bologna, I would like skill to win me some decent funds, but more often than not, I win triple my usual amounts when lady luck rears her beautiful head. In my online tournament world lady luck trumps skill.

Another thing poker shows me is rakeback. If you are not getting rakeback, more than likely you are a losing player because rake trumps all. I mean the casinos do not build hotels because they run a charity. The excitement and heyday of online poker was these poker sites giving bonuses like there was no tomorrow. Now the bonuses are not even a hundredth of what they used to be when a lot of poker players could make a living with the bonuses and rakeback the sites were offering years ago. Those wild heydays are a distant memory. Some players were flopturnriver players too, eating at the trough during the good times. I am in too many ring games with players and both of us lose all our money and rebuy in, and nobody has came in or left the table. It is because the rake has eaten us up alive. I hear Pokerstars has raised the rake this week. The online game of poker is not getting any cheaper to play.

Last thing about poker is get a sponsor. You see NASCAR drivers with sponsors, well, poker is no different as a sport. If you want to make a bundle of money, you have to get sponsored.

Talking about a hand history, my full house lost to a higher full house tonight. The only way I could have won the hand is by folding, because the other person was not backing down.

lets clear this bullshit up Eberretta. Did you actually look at his 3 posts or did you jump to your conclusion merely by seeing the number of posts he had made? His first post was a blatant advertisement for his own pokersite and the content was from his site. I deleted the name of his site from the title and and sent him a warning by PM not to advertise his site again. He then posted this thread and followed it up with another "strategy" post from his site. At this point the Mods discussed it and the decision was taken to ban him for promoting his own site.You might find this thread enlightens you http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...on-198129.html

I see Keith with a hatred of freerollers, but Ferguson and many others have done the zero to $10,000 bankroll challenge. So why the hate on the freerollers? If you lose your bankroll, you freeroll another roll, once you have a new roll you use it to increase your bankroll 5 digits using good bankroll money management.

I have no hate at all for freerollers . I started out playing freerolls and when i was winning consistently i looked to move to real money play and found FTR . Then i posted hands like mad and commented on others hands. None of the regs mind people giving "wrong" opinions as it helps them and others to learn when they are corrected by the better players as long as those "wrong" opinions are given in an attempt to learn and improve their poker skills.
What i hate is people who make these fluffy posts that improves no one's poker skills , noone learns anything and the posters think that they should then be entitled to password access for the value added tourneys that the sites and FTR provide. FTR is a business seeeking to attract new members who will provide content that will attract new members for itself and customers for the sites it is linked to. in return the sites and FTR provide those added value tourneys. Why should people who contribute nothing to FTR have access to those prizepools and deny the active members of FTR a chance at them.

To me, the most important thing about online poker is luck. I have monied in more of my online tournaments with luck rather than skill. Almost every one of my skill hands that I am ahead on the turn, take me out of the money on the river. Almost every game I have monied in, some weak hand that I have been forced to play, wins some luck way, and it's like I would have never played that hand in a million years, and guess what, luck has me win a totally losing hand. Wow, I am in the money, through no skill of my own. Bologna, I would like skill to win me some decent funds, but more often than not, I win triple my usual amounts when lady luck rears her beautiful head. In my online tournament world lady luck trumps skill.

again a fallacy . If you had posted hand histories and learnt you would have improved your understanding of poker to know that this is wrong.if you keep taking 80:20 opportunities you will win lots of money. You are selectively remembering the bad beats and using them to justify to yourself that luck is more important than skill and so you keep doing the same old thing and relying on suckouts. Skill will get you the chip count to withstand the bad beats.Skill will get you the chip counts to win a lot more money in the long run, but as you don't appear to be working on your skill how can it improve so that it wins you more money?. Look at the heasdsup tourney in the gauntlet , you didn't have the skill to play heads up poker so you resorted to open shoving most hands and hoping to get lucky. How are you going to win tournaments with the big pay jumps if you don't know how to play heads up poker?.