yep olddog, your right about me, I'm a very patient player it doesn't bother me to fold 90% of my hands, but when I do hook one I like to real them in for the most profit possible, which sometimes gets me in trouble, yea gives them extra cards to look at, but I want to learn to play more aggressively, I seem to get the hang of it for a game or two then it just goes to pots I'm trying to get into more hands, trying to push, raising more preflop ,making more continuation bets, just seems more hit or miss poker , but it seems I need to understand this to get me to the next level, right now I try to bet enough to keep them from folding trying to increase the pot I'm not sayin this is my golden rule just most of the time,but I can see that right now my game needs to get a little bit more aggressive,by all means the game I play now is winning more then losing, just feel like its time to take the next step, I can see that