What's his range here?

What's his range here? And what range did he put me on here? I just want to get people's opinion.
He's playing 30/8/2.0. over 50 hands. I've seen him 3bet light on the button a couple of times, with suited connectors and medium suited A's. And i've just been on a card streak so i've raised a few pots in a row before this.


So preflop:
he 3 bet such a small amount, i don't have much of a read regarding if this is a sign of weakness or if he's trying to get me to call when he's got AA or KK.

so range preflop:
{ 22+, 89s+, A8s+, AJo+, KQ, }

flop:
He's cbetting every flop in the hands i've seen him play, so I check raise to try and get some value. He calls. I think he's still calling with a lot of his draws to try and bust me since i'm representing a pretty big hand here.
{ 89+, 88+, AK, AJs, KQ, AQ } I'm not too sure about 88 and 99, think he's probably folding that but not sure.

turn: turn is a blank, I know the range is pretty wide, against this range, its basically a coin flip.

So my choices.

shove: he's folding down all his draws, definitely not calling me with anything worse.

cf: I hate this line, since he could easily shove his big draws here.

cc: he could shove his big draws, or try and shove a TT or JJ. but most of the time i'll be beat.

cr: this is i think the worst, if he bets small, don't think he'll do it as a semi bluff, so i raise, i'm definitely behind.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($9.65)
BB ($10.55)
Hero (UTG) ($10.50)
MP ($17.30)
Button ($10.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J
Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, Button raises to $0.90, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.95) 7, Q, 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.80, Hero raises to $2.30, Button calls $1.50

Turn: ($6.55) 5 (2 players)

explain why you decided to c/r this flop and we'll go from there...

Originally Posted by Micro2Macro

explain why you decided to c/r this flop and we'll go from there...

Well, he's been cbetting every pot. so he's definitely cbetting hands that beat me, but also cbetting hands that are draws and such. against a flush draw with 8 outs, or AK with 6 outs, or more if he has backdoor flush draw, or AKs. I'm happy to take it down with a check raise.

because if I check call here, i wouldn't know what to do on the turn if he fires.

If overcard comes, or flush comes in, its pretty much a fold. if blank comes and he fires, i still wouldn't know what to do. Because he could be continuing with a semi bluff or can just fire again with a Q, or AA or KK

So you would much prefer that he folds every hand you are ahead of and only calls when you are behind right?

I don't really like his minraise pre and OTF- He can show much strnght so I wouldn't raise OTF but only call.

Originally Posted by Micro2Macro

explain why you decided to c/r this flop and we'll go from there...

Isn't it ok to c/r a habitual c-bettor in the type of hand posted by op?

Originally Posted by littleogre

Isn't it ok to c/r a habitual c-bettor in the type of hand posted by op?

A better question would be: "I believe it's okay to c/r a habitual c-bettor in the type of hand posted by op, because X. What are your thoughts on my reasoning?"

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

So you would much prefer that he folds every hand you are ahead of and only calls when you are behind right?

^this

I think c/r on this board seems like weakness if i was vilian. I think any AQ+, pockets or draws are making a move like this and if I have AQ, QQ+ i'm getting paid off.... I think you are probably behind here
What do you guys think of doing it this way:
bet $1.75 on flop, if raised, fold... if called probably another c-bet on turn maybe half pot?

I asked this because I usually find myself playing these hands this way and am wondering what is a better way to do it

Originally Posted by kiwiMark

A better question would be: "I believe it's okay to c/r a habitual c-bettor in the type of hand posted by op, because X. What are your thoughts on my reasoning?"

i actually had a reply typed up for you but clicked my bookmark before hitting submit. In general though isn't c/r the best way to deal with people who c-bet to much? If we c/r i think he continues with any 7 any Q.Aswell as FDs maybe even some aces as donks love to call down with A high on a paired board.

If he's 3betting that light OTB, the range of hands villain isn't 3betting is huge. I dont understand c/r'ing here, as opposed to cbetting the flop yourself.

oh yeah, i wanted to include too a very helpful tip i picked up, i believe it was spoon that said it but if not I applogize to the person who did..

If an opponent is passive but not playing passively there is a reason for it, they have a strong hand

Yaaa, my usual line against an unknown is actually to bet around half pot on a paired flop. Because it's usually hard to continue if he's missed. But I don't usually do that in 3bet pots.

But ya, looking back, I definitely didn't plan out my hand very well. I was only thinking about he's gonna cbet, and i'm probably going to take it with a cr. If he shoves over top, its an easy fold. If he just calls, I was going to re-evaluate on the turn.

I'd actually prefer to lose with your hand if I had top pair. Top pair would be queens since a queen has already appeared. Maybe this video explains it better...

YouTube - How to play JJ

Some people lose lots of money because they believe their opponent never has the higher card. Why not do the shoving when you have the higher cards?