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Villain is 38/16, fold to 3bet 0%(4) agg 1.8 Agg Freq 23% over 75 hands. Have seen him shove pre with AA and call a 3bet with AK. No other notes.

I think I should have probably b flop.

As played are we calling flop and river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($5.80)
CO ($11.61)
Button ($4)
Hero (SB) ($17.27)
BB ($11.04)
UTG ($8.52)
UTG+1 ($7.83)
MP1 ($3.17)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J, J
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $0.25, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.75


Flop: ($2.10) 4, A, 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

Turn: ($3.90) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks

River: ($3.90) A (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Total pot: $6.90 | Rake: $0.33

I don't mind this line if we think this guy likes to bet air in position, though I prefer to b/f flop, c/f turn and c/f river against someone who's calling most Ax to a 3bet.

i don't like the preflop 3b.

Originally Posted by daven

i don't like the preflop 3b.

Really? Based on stats, I think this guy calls a lot of crap we dominate to our 3bet, while he likely 4bet shoves QQ+ and flats AK. Seems like a perfect 3bet spot to me.

Originally Posted by daven

i don't like the preflop 3b.

Can you explain your reasoning for why not?

cbet $1.2 on flop. as played call river.

Originally Posted by PKKFW

Can you explain your reasoning for why not?

because you are expecting to be called almost all of the time yet don't have a plan for what to do on flops containing an overcard to your pair. Also, his ep range is going to be a lot stronger than you seem to be giving him credit for (say 77+/AQ+?) and none of it is folding.

The 3b is fine if you have already decided what you're doing on various flop textures, but not if you're just 3-betting for the sake of 3-betting JJ cos that's what you're "supposed" to do

You really have to ask yourself what he would be raising from utg+1. Hint: it's not 38% of hands.
The flop and river c/c sucks. A b/f, c/f or a c/r would have been better. You may be oop but you have initiative in the hand so I'd throw out a c-bet at about 2/3 pot on the flop.

Originally Posted by daven

because you are expecting to be called almost all of the time yet don't have a plan for what to do on flops containing an overcard to your pair. Also, his ep range is going to be a lot stronger than you seem to be giving him credit for (say 77+/AQ+?) and none of it is folding.

The 3b is fine if you have already decided what you're doing on various flop textures, but not if you're just 3-betting for the sake of 3-betting JJ cos that's what you're "supposed" to do

Hadn't really thought of it like that. Good points. Really need to work on that "thinking ahead" aspect of my game.

Originally Posted by Shotglass

You really have to ask yourself what he would be raising from utg+1. Hint: it's not 38% of hands.

Actually it's 39% of his hands he raises from EP! But I get your point generally with regards to 99% of players.

Originally Posted by Shotglass

The flop and river c/c sucks. A b/f, c/f or a c/r would have been better. You may be oop but you have initiative in the hand so I'd throw out a c-bet at about 2/3 pot on the flop.

Totally agree this would have been the better way to play it.

Originally Posted by PKKFW

Villain is 38/16, fold to 3bet 0%(4) agg 1.8 Agg Freq 23% over 75 hands.

Originally Posted by PKKFW

Actually it's 39% of his hands he raises from EP! But I get your point generally with regards to 99% of players.

If he's running 38/16 or even 39/16 then he's not raising 38% of his hands from EP. Prolly more like 10%ish.

Originally Posted by Shotglass

river c/c sucks.

i actually think C/Cing the river is optimal as played. villain can be betting 9's or 8's because he/she has no idea about value-betting. and can also have some air given how weak OP's line looks. we don't have to have the best hand very often given the ridiculous price we are getting.

Originally Posted by rpm

i actually think C/Cing the river is optimal as played. villain can be betting 9's or 8's because he/she has no idea about value-betting. and can also have some air given how weak OP's line looks. we don't have to have the best hand very often given the ridiculous price we are getting.

I agree that as the hand was played a c/c on the river is prolly best. I was just trying to make a point that, imo, there were a few better ways to play the hand than using such a weak line.

Originally Posted by Shotglass

If he's running 38/16 or even 39/16 then he's not raising 38% of his hands from EP. Prolly more like 10%ish.

Not to belabour a point as I do understand what you are getting at but.......my HEM hud keeps stats on opponents positional raising. It shows he raises from MP 39%.

This time he showed A7o.

I totally agree with everything else being said in that I could have played the hand alot better.

Originally Posted by rpm

cbet $1.2 on flop. as played call river.

Money. Pre is good, cbet flop. As played I call river .