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  1. #1

    Default what would you do?

    ***** Hand History for Game 4889827816 *****
    $50 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, August 06, 14:08:21 ET 2006
    Table Easy Bingo (Real Money)
    Seat 4 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 3: bottledown ( $31.75 )
    Seat 4: otis01 ( $53.90 )
    Seat 5: BAD__IP ( $59.35 )
    Seat 9: netzroht1 ( $97.95 )
    Seat 10: MHphenom ( $29.11 )
    Seat 7: pschumac2 ( $48.20 )
    Seat 1: DTTRITON ( $39.40 )
    Seat 8: ARKman88 ( $60.35 )
    Seat 6: JurassicMJ ( $8.25 )
    Seat 2: imper23 ( $42.75 )
    BAD__IP posts small blind [$0.25].
    JurassicMJ posts big blind [$0.50].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to pschumac2 [ Ad Qd ]
    pschumac2 raises [$1].
    ARKman88 folds.
    netzroht1 folds.
    MHphenom folds.
    DTTRITON folds.
    imper23 folds.
    bottledown folds.
    otis01 calls [$1].
    BAD__IP calls [$0.75].
    JurassicMJ folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, Jc, Kd ]
    BAD__IP checks.
    pschumac2 bets [$0.50].
    otis01 calls [$0.50].
    BAD__IP folds.
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
    pschumac2 bets [$0.50].
    otis01 raises [$4].
    pschumac2 calls [$3.50].
    ** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
    pschumac2 bets [$15].
    otis01 is all-In.
  2. #2
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    what would i do?

    make a hand and take my cheap turn card
  3. #3
    What's with all the gay minbetting?..
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    Read up. Play more. Play lower stakes. Please try not to be offended, but you are an extremely weak player.

    Read all the posts in the beginners circle to see why betting and raising minimum is the wrong play.

    In this hand you should have raised to $2 preflop (4x the big blind), and bet 2/3 the pot on the flop. The turn would have likely played differently.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    Read up. Play more. Play lower stakes. Please try not to be offended, but you are an extremely weak player.

    Read all the posts in the beginners circle to see why betting and raising minimum is the wrong play.

    In this hand you should have raised to $2 preflop (4x the big blind), and bet 2/3 the pot on the flop. The turn would have likely played differently.
    usually I do not bet only minimum however on this had I had pretty much nothing untill the river and was trying to get there and a decent price because I had nothing.

    You recommend betting heavy even if all you are holding is 3 d´s in this situation?
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    Betting minimum is almost always the worst play.

    Had you raised to 2 preflop, more than likely you would have seen the flop against only one opponent. Then you make a continuation bet of 2/3 the pot, representing that you have a K in your hand. If he has you beat then he'll call or raise. If he raises you fold. If he calls you probably would bet the turn for like 1/2 the pot once you picked up your flush draw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pman
    You recommend betting heavy even if all you are holding is 3 d´s in this situation?
    Again read up in the beginner's circle forum. Of particular interest in this case would be continuation betting.

    Edit: Renton wins.
    -jay

    "i think the biggest leak in my game is using 2nd level thinking against players who can't think on the first level." -Renton
  8. #8
    minbet in this case serves no value - it will not make anybody fold, it will not convince anybody you have a hand. It barely builds a pot you have no interset in building right now.
    If you bet, bet like you mean it


  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR
    minbet in this case serves no value - it will not make anybody fold, it will not convince anybody you have a hand. It barely builds a pot you have no interset in building right now.
    If you bet, bet like you mean it
    ty to you and everyone else.

    I usually bet 1 and raise 1-2 and am very agressive. However after reading the reply on these posts I started trying to keep the same agression but up the amount i put on the table.

    It has been working great, now when I have something I want to play i put 2-3 down pre flop on the .25/.50 tables and when i raise i do so with a significant amount. This has lead to alot more income in small pots that I probably would have one but not having to go far at all and other pots that I did not really have any business betting that much on.

    BTW I am not offended by being called a weak player. I have been playing for about a week for real money. Before that I played tj coutiers game to practice on (it is more of a poker lesson then a game).

    Poker tracker rates me as a TAA under BT rules and poker trakers inate rules. I think one of my main problems is exaclty what you guys pointed out. I need to put more in the pot when i raise. This is something I did not even see, the old I know what I know, I know what I don´t know, and the I don´t know what I don´t know areas of knowledge.

    Another issue I tend to have is chasing pots a bit to far, trying to work on that. There are times where I think I am beat but maybe not... those get me decently hard every once in a while.
  10. #10
    Knowing is half the battle.
    The mere fact that you are aware that you have leaks and working on fixing them is great.
    Keep posting hands you have questions and issues with, it is one of the best ways to improve your game


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    And welcome to FTR...


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