What Stats are on your HuD?

Been playing with PT3. So nice to have useful stats.

Player #Hands
VP$IP PFR AttSteal FoldBBSteal
3BetPF Fold3B FoldSteal3Bet
CBetFlop CBetTurn FoldFCBet

pretty much the same for me, though I have WTSD/W$SD.

I'd liek to see a squeeze stat and raise limpers PF stat, can be done through the custom stat thing - but I've no idea how!

Originally Posted by Muzzard

WTSD/W$SD.

Interesting. W$SD over a small sample is a luckbox stat. $$ won today would almost be more useful. How often does WTSD give you actionable infomation?

Originally Posted by Muzzard

I'd liek to see a squeeze stat and raise limpers PF stat

3Bet and PFR will help define those behaviors though.

is FoldSteal3Bet exactly Fold steal to blinds reraise in PT3?? what percentage of Cbet turn % do you think is rather high and they double barrel a lot?

Originally Posted by pokerfan

what percentage of Cbet turn % do you think is rather high and they double barrel a lot?

Not sure yet, just started using it.

Against someone playing a sane amount of hands at 6max, you'll probably need at least a 1k sample, maybe 2k-3k for the number to have any value. Bascially, it's a tool to pwn regulars with.

Originally Posted by Fnord

Originally Posted by Muzzard

WTSD/W$SD.

Interesting. W$SD over a small sample is a luckbox stat. $$ won today would almost be more useful. How often does WTSD give you actionable infomation?

WTSD and W$SD are used together. For example, low WTSD + high W$SD indicates a weak-tight player; high WTSD + low W$SD indicates calling station.

VPIP PFR AttSteal
CallPFR CBetFlop FoldToFCbet AF Hands

I'm thinking of taking off CbetFlop & leaving that in detail.


I also have my 3bet / call 3bet stats in detail cause I find myself using them infrequently enough that I'm ok checking detail

VPIP/PFR/Steal attempt
c-bet/fold to flop re-raise/turn aggression

Im lame.

VPIP/PFR/AF
Att2steal/Fold2steal/hands.

VPIP/PFR/AF/Att to Steal
WtSD/W$WSF/CBet/Fold Cbet
Fold vs Steal/3-bet/Fold 3-bet/various things i try out

W$WSF is pretty useful

Originally Posted by reprisal

W$WSF is pretty useful

How so? Give an example of a decision it effected.

i think fold to 3bet and fold to 3bet pot c/b is goot
3bet BTN steal too

no one uses agg numbers by street?

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

no one uses agg numbers by street?

Agression factor tries to do too much. Any decision it would feed into I could get better data from a different stat.

I disagree, I think the overall agg number is that way but when its broken down per street it gives a nice summary of how a person is going to play.

Yeah, there might be a combined 2-3 stats per street that do a better job in the popup menu but on the fly i like the agg per street.

I have been using W$WSF% as a better overall aggression indicator along with AF. My popup will tell me AF by street if I need but I think W$WSF is an indicative of our own aggression if used properly, why not theirs.

I also have CBet flop/fold to Cbet
Cbet turn/fold to turn Cbet
and bet river/fold to river witha pop up telling me their betting IP and OOP.

Plus the usual suspects stats

i much prefer Agg % than AF.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

i much prefer Agg % than AF.

Agreed. I think it gives you a fair picture of villains' betting patterns over less hands also, especially for loose players. Someone who's seeing 40% of flops gives you a pretty good idea how they play flops so much more quickly than a nit would.

Ya, W$WSF is pretty similar to AF. it basically tells you how much they are fighting to win each pot. It gives you a pretty good idea how often they are putting the moves on post flop(and it converges faster than any of those stats individually). I also use it in a similar manner as mentioned earlier instead of W$SD in combination with WTSD.


I use Agg % and AF by street occasionally from popup stats, but they can be kinda tricky w/o a big sample size on the turn & river