I just want to say that I'm happy to see that this thread has actually become a reasonable, more respectful discussion.

Also, lambchop, I want to point out that I do respect your view and agree to some extent with some of what you say, and am happy to see that your recent posts in this thread have been much more respectful and conducive to productive argument. I never took offense with your opinion, just with turning what people say on its head by taking it out of context.