What I learned here today...

I put up a post about building a poker bot today.The truth is it was a post just to see how many flamers i got.I was telling my poker friend that I found a forum where there's little if any back biting and that this was the best forum on poker bar none.So as usual we got a prop bet going.I am building a bot but I never intended to do it for profit as I stated it's free to anyone that wants it here and only here.He said if I post about it that I'd be run off from the flamers posting.Well I won the bet I really only got decent posts on the topic some didn't like the idea but no name calling was ever used and they just stated why they thought it was a bad idea.Thanks for helping me win $100 today guys I knew I was right when I said that this is the best site to talk poker on bar none.It's def. the very best moderated as I've stated on other posts here.I have an article on poker forums on my blog called "Thoughts of an aspiring online poker pro".I was treated like dog food on P 5s and cards chat and all but gave up on forums till I remembered this one and tried 1 last time.Glad I did now I'm writing an article about this best of all poker forum sites I ever was involved with.T.Y. ....coyboy33

whew... Glad I didn't get around to commenting on the thread yet. You would have hated me. Besides name calling, I also considered locking, and recycling. Yay for being a lazy mod!

hmmmm......do I get a cut? lol

This same friend and I have a prop bet concerning if I can take an account at PitBull Poker from $0 to $1k by the end of the year.The rules are that I had to start with a $0 balance and make no deposits.I.E. the Chris Ferguson thing he did a while back.Our mutual friend has both our $5ks secured in his safe deposit box and will give it to the winner when the challenge is met or the time limit is up.It took me 3 weeks to get to $10 but I got to $40 the next day.I'm now at $165 4 weeks or so in.Looks like I've got a good chance to pull it off.If you want to watch the progress I post videos of my play and updates on the challenge on youtube.Google coyboy33/youtube to see it or put in my screen name at youtubes search.Hope you like it.Also see the Peter Neff is an A. hole video about the unfair treatment I received at P5s.

does this bot insert spaces and paragraph breaks into forum posts?

Originally Posted by surviva316

does this bot insert spaces and paragraph breaks into forum posts?

lol making money doesnt require proper english

Since this thread sucks I'm going to hijack it with a copy/paste from a 2p2 post of mine from a long time ago:

Here are some PMs I shared with some ****tard named "bot_hunter" from here:

bot_hunter: Let me begin by saying I am not affiliated with any poker site
If this is the spoonitnow that plays on Pokerstars contact me I have a proposition. If this is not, please let me know.

spoonitnow: yeah it is what's up

bot_hunter: I want a copy of the bot you use

spoonitnow: do you have a mac?

bot_hunter: I can get one easy enough.

spoonitnow: You're obviously not serious about this. There is no PokerStars client for Mac.

bot_hunter: Obviously I overestimated you. I know PS doesn't make a client for a mac. I thought you might be using a windows emulator on a mac. But if you don't even know such a thing exists...
Yes, I'm very serious. I datamine PS and use poker tracking software to locate bots. I've only been using it for this purpose since the first of the year. I haven't found many good ones for NLHE on PS. The bot you use is one of the more profitable ones I've seen. I had found one about the same but I could not find its host and I just turned him in. It took about a week, but I no longer see that ID on PS. Basically, I'm done playing games here. I want a copy of that bot as you run it compressed either .rar or.zip. If your ready to send it to me and I'll set up a place for you to email it. Otherwise...

spoonitnow: Wow. Just, wow.

It was a **** test to see if you were one of my friends picking on me, but there is a Mac client for PokerStars. The url to their page about it is here: http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/download/mac/

Also, there is enough evidence that I am not a bot that no investigation by PokerStars will never think that I am one. You are obviously not qualified to interpret statistics that you "datamine", so maybe you should give it up and try to get a job at McDonalds or something.

And if you spit in my Big Mac I'll get you fired. K thx.

bot_hunter: k i'll turn u in and hunt 4 another

spoonitnow: You can't see me bitch *****. Best get off these spoonbot2k8 nuts before you get slapped up homie.

bot_hunter: If the empty threats and name calling make you feel better about soon getting your bankroll seized ok. I'm done with you and off hunting for someone else. Good luck.

spoonitnow: Okay okay fine I'll send you a copy. What's the email address?



Below is the email I sent to Stars with their reply. The part of their reply in bold is awesome imo.

Subject: From spoonitnow with love <3 <3 <3

Hello! I've got a weird situation on my hands that I'm not quite sure how to deal with, and I figured it would be best if I contacted you guys before any sort of problems occurred. To me this is pretty stupid, but I'm just trying to play it safe so that things don't get out of hand.

A few days ago I received a private message on the 2+2 forums from a person with one post named 'bot_hunter'. This individual seems to think that the play on my account is with some sort of "bot", and is now pressing me for a copy of said "bot". If I don't comply, he's "threatening" to get my account kicked off of PokerStars or something.

I have attached a screen shot of my correspondence with "bot_hunter" from the 2+2 forums to this email for obvious reasons. I asked the "do you have a mac?" question because I figured at first that it was just one of my comrades who often joke about me being a bot because of the amount of tables that I sometimes play playing a joke on me and I was playing back. However, here is a direct quote from this user from the private message that I received today and what prompted me to send this email:

"Yes, I'm very serious. I datamine PS and use poker tracking software to locate bots. I've only been using it for this purpose since the first of the year. I haven't found many good ones for NLHE on PS. The bot you use is one of the more profitable ones I've seen. I had found one about the same but I could not find its host and I just turned him in. It took about a week, but I no longer see that ID on PS. Basically, I'm done playing games here. I want a copy of that bot as you run it compressed either .rar or.zip. If your ready to send it to me and I'll set up a place for you to email it. Otherwise..."

The only applications I use while playing on PokerStars are Poker Tracker, the PokerAce Headsup Display, an AutoHotKey script called StarsPlanner that can be found on www.overcards.com, and another AutoHotKey script called BetPot that can be found on the same website. As of today's date, all of these applications are allowed by PokerStars.

The obvious issue here is that I'm not using any sort of "bot" for my play, and I don't want any sort of allegations of such to interrupt my regular play. Like I said in the beginning of this email, this is an odd situation to be in, and maybe I'm overreacting, but I thought it would be best to contact you before this "bot_hunter" has a chance to do any sort of damage to my reputation as an Internet poker player.

If you need anything from me, feel free to ask.

Many thanks,
Jesse
"spoonitnow"



Hello Jesse,

Your Email has been escalated to me for additional review and comment.

Thank you for your patience in awaiting my reply.

Please rest assured that no player has the ability to "get someone thrown off PokerStars". Nobody. That is because nobody but a PokerStars bot hunter with access to our bot hunting tools has the information necessary to determine if a player is a bot or not.

There are some (like Mr. Gatorade aka Crazy Mike) that *think* they have such pull, or have a surefire method to tell a bot from a human... but they're mistaken. Virtually all bot reports we receive from players are false alarms based upon fallacious and incorrect assumptions. The bots we catch are caught proactively, usually long before they can be noticed and identified by the best human observer.

I've examined your account as a result of this Email (and this review wasn't the first such examination you've undergone), and find nothing of concern. I would simply ignore this player and refuse to answer his Emails.... or call his bluff and tell him to report you if he must. If he then reports you to us directly, it will likely come to my inbox and I'll be able to identify this person and warn him that harassment or extortion of players he suspects to be bots is not acceptable.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Good luck in your games and thank you for playing on PokerStars.

Best Regards,

Jeff
PokerStars Game Security

Originally Posted by surviva316

does this bot insert spaces and paragraph breaks into forum posts?

ok 1st smart azz I've had to deal with here.If you made a post longer than one sentence you'd know that your HTML doesn't work here unless the staff enables it.If it's proper paragraph form you want go to an english diction forum.Glad you didn't see my bot post you'd of cost me $100.

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

Since this thread sucks I'm going to hijack it with a copy/paste from a 2p2 post of mine from a long time ago:

Here are some PMs I shared with some ****tard named "bot_hunter" from here:

bot_hunter: Let me begin by saying I am not affiliated with any poker site
If this is the spoonitnow that plays on Pokerstars contact me I have a proposition. If this is not, please let me know.

spoonitnow: yeah it is what's up

bot_hunter: I want a copy of the bot you use

spoonitnow: do you have a mac?

bot_hunter: I can get one easy enough.

spoonitnow: You're obviously not serious about this. There is no PokerStars client for Mac.

bot_hunter: Obviously I overestimated you. I know PS doesn't make a client for a mac. I thought you might be using a windows emulator on a mac. But if you don't even know such a thing exists...
Yes, I'm very serious. I datamine PS and use poker tracking software to locate bots. I've only been using it for this purpose since the first of the year. I haven't found many good ones for NLHE on PS. The bot you use is one of the more profitable ones I've seen. I had found one about the same but I could not find its host and I just turned him in. It took about a week, but I no longer see that ID on PS. Basically, I'm done playing games here. I want a copy of that bot as you run it compressed either .rar or.zip. If your ready to send it to me and I'll set up a place for you to email it. Otherwise...

spoonitnow: Wow. Just, wow.

It was a **** test to see if you were one of my friends picking on me, but there is a Mac client for PokerStars. The url to their page about it is here: http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/download/mac/

Also, there is enough evidence that I am not a bot that no investigation by PokerStars will never think that I am one. You are obviously not qualified to interpret statistics that you "datamine", so maybe you should give it up and try to get a job at McDonalds or something.

And if you spit in my Big Mac I'll get you fired. K thx.

bot_hunter: k i'll turn u in and hunt 4 another

spoonitnow: You can't see me bitch *****. Best get off these spoonbot2k8 nuts before you get slapped up homie.

bot_hunter: If the empty threats and name calling make you feel better about soon getting your bankroll seized ok. I'm done with you and off hunting for someone else. Good luck.

spoonitnow: Okay okay fine I'll send you a copy. What's the email address?



Below is the email I sent to Stars with their reply. The part of their reply in bold is awesome imo.

Subject: From spoonitnow with love <3 <3 <3

Hello! I've got a weird situation on my hands that I'm not quite sure how to deal with, and I figured it would be best if I contacted you guys before any sort of problems occurred. To me this is pretty stupid, but I'm just trying to play it safe so that things don't get out of hand.

A few days ago I received a private message on the 2+2 forums from a person with one post named 'bot_hunter'. This individual seems to think that the play on my account is with some sort of "bot", and is now pressing me for a copy of said "bot". If I don't comply, he's "threatening" to get my account kicked off of PokerStars or something.

I have attached a screen shot of my correspondence with "bot_hunter" from the 2+2 forums to this email for obvious reasons. I asked the "do you have a mac?" question because I figured at first that it was just one of my comrades who often joke about me being a bot because of the amount of tables that I sometimes play playing a joke on me and I was playing back. However, here is a direct quote from this user from the private message that I received today and what prompted me to send this email:

"Yes, I'm very serious. I datamine PS and use poker tracking software to locate bots. I've only been using it for this purpose since the first of the year. I haven't found many good ones for NLHE on PS. The bot you use is one of the more profitable ones I've seen. I had found one about the same but I could not find its host and I just turned him in. It took about a week, but I no longer see that ID on PS. Basically, I'm done playing games here. I want a copy of that bot as you run it compressed either .rar or.zip. If your ready to send it to me and I'll set up a place for you to email it. Otherwise..."

The only applications I use while playing on PokerStars are Poker Tracker, the PokerAce Headsup Display, an AutoHotKey script called StarsPlanner that can be found on www.overcards.com, and another AutoHotKey script called BetPot that can be found on the same website. As of today's date, all of these applications are allowed by PokerStars.

The obvious issue here is that I'm not using any sort of "bot" for my play, and I don't want any sort of allegations of such to interrupt my regular play. Like I said in the beginning of this email, this is an odd situation to be in, and maybe I'm overreacting, but I thought it would be best to contact you before this "bot_hunter" has a chance to do any sort of damage to my reputation as an Internet poker player.

If you need anything from me, feel free to ask.

Many thanks,
Jesse
"spoonitnow"



Hello Jesse,

Your Email has been escalated to me for additional review and comment.

Thank you for your patience in awaiting my reply.

Please rest assured that no player has the ability to "get someone thrown off PokerStars". Nobody. That is because nobody but a PokerStars bot hunter with access to our bot hunting tools has the information necessary to determine if a player is a bot or not.

There are some (like Mr. Gatorade aka Crazy Mike) that *think* they have such pull, or have a surefire method to tell a bot from a human... but they're mistaken. Virtually all bot reports we receive from players are false alarms based upon fallacious and incorrect assumptions. The bots we catch are caught proactively, usually long before they can be noticed and identified by the best human observer.

I've examined your account as a result of this Email (and this review wasn't the first such examination you've undergone), and find nothing of concern. I would simply ignore this player and refuse to answer his Emails.... or call his bluff and tell him to report you if he must. If he then reports you to us directly, it will likely come to my inbox and I'll be able to identify this person and warn him that harassment or extortion of players he suspects to be bots is not acceptable.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Good luck in your games and thank you for playing on PokerStars.

Best Regards,

Jeff
PokerStars Game Security

Yeah ..really.... hijack my nuts ok..?

Originally Posted by coyboy33

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

Since this thread sucks I'm going to hijack it with a copy/paste from a 2p2 post of mine from a long time ago:

Here are some PMs I shared with some ****tard named "bot_hunter" from here:

bot_hunter: Let me begin by saying I am not affiliated with any poker site
If this is the spoonitnow that plays on Pokerstars contact me I have a proposition. If this is not, please let me know.

spoonitnow: yeah it is what's up

bot_hunter: I want a copy of the bot you use

spoonitnow: do you have a mac?

bot_hunter: I can get one easy enough.

spoonitnow: You're obviously not serious about this. There is no PokerStars client for Mac.

bot_hunter: Obviously I overestimated you. I know PS doesn't make a client for a mac. I thought you might be using a windows emulator on a mac. But if you don't even know such a thing exists...
Yes, I'm very serious. I datamine PS and use poker tracking software to locate bots. I've only been using it for this purpose since the first of the year. I haven't found many good ones for NLHE on PS. The bot you use is one of the more profitable ones I've seen. I had found one about the same but I could not find its host and I just turned him in. It took about a week, but I no longer see that ID on PS. Basically, I'm done playing games here. I want a copy of that bot as you run it compressed either .rar or.zip. If your ready to send it to me and I'll set up a place for you to email it. Otherwise...

spoonitnow: Wow. Just, wow.

It was a **** test to see if you were one of my friends picking on me, but there is a Mac client for PokerStars. The url to their page about it is here: http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/download/mac/

Also, there is enough evidence that I am not a bot that no investigation by PokerStars will never think that I am one. You are obviously not qualified to interpret statistics that you "datamine", so maybe you should give it up and try to get a job at McDonalds or something.

And if you spit in my Big Mac I'll get you fired. K thx.

bot_hunter: k i'll turn u in and hunt 4 another

spoonitnow: You can't see me bitch *****. Best get off these spoonbot2k8 nuts before you get slapped up homie.

bot_hunter: If the empty threats and name calling make you feel better about soon getting your bankroll seized ok. I'm done with you and off hunting for someone else. Good luck.

spoonitnow: Okay okay fine I'll send you a copy. What's the email address?



Below is the email I sent to Stars with their reply. The part of their reply in bold is awesome imo.

Subject: From spoonitnow with love <3 <3 <3

Hello! I've got a weird situation on my hands that I'm not quite sure how to deal with, and I figured it would be best if I contacted you guys before any sort of problems occurred. To me this is pretty stupid, but I'm just trying to play it safe so that things don't get out of hand.

A few days ago I received a private message on the 2+2 forums from a person with one post named 'bot_hunter'. This individual seems to think that the play on my account is with some sort of "bot", and is now pressing me for a copy of said "bot". If I don't comply, he's "threatening" to get my account kicked off of PokerStars or something.

I have attached a screen shot of my correspondence with "bot_hunter" from the 2+2 forums to this email for obvious reasons. I asked the "do you have a mac?" question because I figured at first that it was just one of my comrades who often joke about me being a bot because of the amount of tables that I sometimes play playing a joke on me and I was playing back. However, here is a direct quote from this user from the private message that I received today and what prompted me to send this email:

"Yes, I'm very serious. I datamine PS and use poker tracking software to locate bots. I've only been using it for this purpose since the first of the year. I haven't found many good ones for NLHE on PS. The bot you use is one of the more profitable ones I've seen. I had found one about the same but I could not find its host and I just turned him in. It took about a week, but I no longer see that ID on PS. Basically, I'm done playing games here. I want a copy of that bot as you run it compressed either .rar or.zip. If your ready to send it to me and I'll set up a place for you to email it. Otherwise..."

The only applications I use while playing on PokerStars are Poker Tracker, the PokerAce Headsup Display, an AutoHotKey script called StarsPlanner that can be found on www.overcards.com, and another AutoHotKey script called BetPot that can be found on the same website. As of today's date, all of these applications are allowed by PokerStars.

The obvious issue here is that I'm not using any sort of "bot" for my play, and I don't want any sort of allegations of such to interrupt my regular play. Like I said in the beginning of this email, this is an odd situation to be in, and maybe I'm overreacting, but I thought it would be best to contact you before this "bot_hunter" has a chance to do any sort of damage to my reputation as an Internet poker player.

If you need anything from me, feel free to ask.

Many thanks,
Jesse
"spoonitnow"



Hello Jesse,

Your Email has been escalated to me for additional review and comment.

Thank you for your patience in awaiting my reply.

Please rest assured that no player has the ability to "get someone thrown off PokerStars". Nobody. That is because nobody but a PokerStars bot hunter with access to our bot hunting tools has the information necessary to determine if a player is a bot or not.

There are some (like Mr. Gatorade aka Crazy Mike) that *think* they have such pull, or have a surefire method to tell a bot from a human... but they're mistaken. Virtually all bot reports we receive from players are false alarms based upon fallacious and incorrect assumptions. The bots we catch are caught proactively, usually long before they can be noticed and identified by the best human observer.

I've examined your account as a result of this Email (and this review wasn't the first such examination you've undergone), and find nothing of concern. I would simply ignore this player and refuse to answer his Emails.... or call his bluff and tell him to report you if he must. If he then reports you to us directly, it will likely come to my inbox and I'll be able to identify this person and warn him that harassment or extortion of players he suspects to be bots is not acceptable.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Good luck in your games and thank you for playing on PokerStars.

Best Regards,

Jeff
PokerStars Game Security

Yeah ..really.... hijack my nuts ok..?

I like nuts!

Originally Posted by coyboy33

Yeah ..really.... hijack my nuts ok..?

I don't know this is just a funny picture and I wanted to use it sometime tonight, so bookmark it and reuse it later. As for the poker bot crap, you'll be much better off starting with a fixed-limit betting lowball game, then proceed to other fixed-limit games like stud or holdem, and then finally to big-bet games. There's a PDF floating around that should be easy to find with Google that describes finding near-unexploitable strategies for complicated games like heads up limit holdem. I'd say good luck but what I'd really mean is you're a sorry sack of shit, though it's not personal, it's only about the poker bot thing if you try to make it play for manies.

If it bothers you so much dude tell me how to break it into paragraphs without HTML cause when I post I try to give a decent answer not umm hijack the thread.So help me help you...help me help you help me...see where this is going?Really i see your posts are in paragraphs so tell me how.I'd be in your debt for it.

Originally Posted by coyboy33

If it bothers you so much dude tell me how to break it into paragraphs without HTML cause when I post I try to give a decent answer not umm hijack the thread.So help me help you...help me help you help me...see where this is going?Really i see your posts are in paragraphs so tell me how.I'd be in your debt for it.

About 62.8482% across the keyboard from the left side there is a key marked with symbols that looks a lot like "Enter", and when you press it your cursor will jump down a line. Like for real I'm going to hit enter twice now

and so I'm down here. BBCode doesn't use a tag for line breaks.

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

Originally Posted by coyboy33

Yeah ..really.... hijack my nuts ok..?

I don't know this is just a funny picture and I wanted to use it sometime tonight, so bookmark it and reuse it later. As for the poker bot crap, you'll be much better off starting with a fixed-limit betting lowball game, then proceed to other fixed-limit games like stud or holdem, and then finally to big-bet games. There's a PDF floating around that should be easy to find with Google that describes finding near-unexploitable strategies for complicated games like heads up limit holdem. I'd say good luck but what I'd really mean is you're a sorry sack of shit, though it's not personal, it's only about the poker bot thing if you try to make it play for manies.

F. off ......................the sack of sh!t line tells all we need to know about you buddy.Here's an idea ,start a thread of your own even though I'm sure they get avoided like the black plague due to your caustic nature.

that's enough

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