Quote Originally Posted by gotigers1234 View Post
The flush draw and gutshot.... 8 outs ...
12 outs (9 to the flush, 4 to the gutshot - but one of the gutshot outs is already counted as an out to the flush), rest are correct

the way you use this info is that by playing with these sorts of examples for a while you basically start to know how many outs you have without having to calculate anything. Cos that's what you said you struggle with 'live'