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    Default What action do i take here

    2nd hand of tourney, no reads on anyone yet. What action do i take here:

    Seat 2: whip*** (1360.00 in chips)
    Seat 3: butt*** (1110.00 in chips)
    Seat 4: GUIT*** (2970.00 in chips)
    Seat 5: tony*** (1480.00 in chips)
    Seat 6: Dvid*** (2070.00 in chips)
    Seat 7: WTR*** (1520.00 in chips)
    Seat 8: Hero (1500.00 in chips)
    Seat 9: gris*** (1500.00 in chips)
    Seat 10: phil*** (1490.00 in chips)
    butt***: posts small blind $10
    GUIT***: posts big blind $20
    Dealt to Hero [ Td Tc ]
    tony***: folds
    Dvid***: calls
    WTR***: calls
    Hero: raises to $300
    gris***: folds
    phil***: folds
    whip***: folds
    butt***: folds
    GUIT***: calls
    Dvid***: folds
    WTR***: raises to $580
    Hero: ???
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    Im opedipus bitch, the original balla.
    Ughhhh... Why are you raising that much?? You opened for 15xbb.. You have already put so much of your stack at risk, which is what you don't want to do this early in a tourney/sng.

    Instead, raise to like $80 - $100 and see what happens. Likely folding to a sizable 3b from villian, I believe.
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    at this point, there's 900 in the pot, you have 1200 behind. The only hands that you don't snap-reshove against are AA, KK, QQ, and JJ. AK, AQ and all lower pairs and if he's being cute suited connectors.

    Unfortunately you have to peel if he has AA, KK, QQ and JJ. But you're relegated to set hungting against AK, and AQ.

    So IMO it's close between a re-shove and a flatcall to set hunt.
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    reshove>fold>>>>>>>>>>>flat call imo. Though depending on the number of players actually in the tourney and how much the buyin was, this could change as people may be more likely to minreraise air. His limp, minreraise line looks alot like either AA, KK that he was donking or 22-77 and he thinks you are trying to steal the minuscule 50 chip pot or whatever tiny amount is in there. I think folding is better than reshoving though because i in no way want to risk my entire stack this early in a tournament with such a vulnerable hand. Best case scenario he has 22-77 which are somewhat discounted becuase usually opps will just fold, slightly ahead of AK,AQ which are heavily discounted as i dont think people limp reraise with AK, and way behind AA,KK,QQ which is probably the most likely hands. The latter group also makes the most sense considering the fact that he reraised your 15bb bet. Reshoving isnt horrible though, depending on if you changed the weight around for that range, but you dont have any info on this guy at all so you have nothing to really justify that unless u think he is a frustrated fish on the 2nd hand.

    Call is wtf horrible though. We dont have odds to sethunt, calling 280 to win 900ish, and when we miss and the flop comes up undercards we are put to the same decision preflop of if he had a AAKKQQ which was highly likely, or the flop comes up Axx, Kxx, Qxx or AKx, AQx, KQx, and we fold to continuation bets from his 22-77 part of the range and his AKAQ range hits beautifully. Basically, the only flop we'd really want to see was one with a T, but we dont really have odds in the first place. So imo, if we cant find a fold with TT, we might as well be reraising so his 22-77 hands dont make money off of us and we at least get it in as a slight fav vs his AKAQ range.

    Now for future hands, raising this much with TT or any hand this earily is so horrible i want to cry. Best scenario, everyone folds and you win like 50 chips, which have literally no value when we compare it to the fact that we just risked 300 chips. If this is a stt, ICM states that the chips in our stack are >>>> than future chips, so it isnt just the fact that 300>50, but it also carries more weight! If this was a mtt, and based on the chip counts preflop it appears that it was, then we have to consider what kind of range gives us action on a 15xbb bet preflop, and what hands fold.

    Thats how i see it anyway...

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