Weird Spot BvB

Preflop is fine. 3betting is meh. Raising the flop is fine but you can also flat with your K and flush draw. The turn is pretty debatable. I doubt he folds if you jam and you aren't getting the correct odds to call with a flush draw unless you account for implied odds which you probably don't have since your line is a pretty obv FD. I'd just muck the turn and move on.

Originally Posted by Donachello

Preflop is fine. 3betting is meh. Raising the flop is fine but you can also flat with your K and flush draw. The turn is pretty debatable. I doubt he folds if you jam and you aren't getting the correct odds to call with a flush draw unless you account for implied odds which you probably don't have since your line is a pretty obv FD. I'd just muck the turn and move on.

I see things a little different for the turn play. You are only slightly under immediate odds, so you need very little to give you the right implied odds. Two additional points in support of this view. First we seem to agree that he has a hand. So doesn't that mean he'll call a bet on the river if we catch ? Especially given.... A) the blind vs blind situation, where the ranges are often pretty wide, and B) his apparent hand strength; it doesn't seem reasonable to me that he would have such a narrow read on us to just flat fold a reasonable river bet. Second, in the actual hand he bet out the river. And while it's true that we have to be cautious playing results and he might not have bet if a flush hits --- he still might have bet out the river. That alone give us the right odds, and of course a raise puts well over the top.


Having said all that I'm *far* from thrilled with calling the turn.