Quote Originally Posted by TLR
First of all you raised to 12 with BB of 2, thats 6xBB raise, not 12xBB.
LOL. Nice catch.
The blinds had gone up, I didn't even notice (that's bad right).

Still 6xbb works here and then when the blinds go up again more "normal" raises start to work.

Nice fold, incredibly bad play by both of them.
I thought the pf play was bad with those hands. What else did they do wrong? What more can I learn from this?

However I think you misplayed it on the flop, calling makes little sense here, if you think you are ahead raise, if you think you are behind then fold
A major problem I have at the moment is calling too often.

When I saw the first bet I thought either something like AT (can imagine him calling pf with that), high pp or two high hearts.
My gut reaction was that he probably had the hearts and was making a semi-bluff.

My idea was to call and get out if he bet heavily if another heart came on the turn, raise him if he showed any hesitancy.
When the big bet came on the turn I had to re-evaluate. Big pocket pair or boat are about all that fit then.

Another reason I'm just calling most of the time is that early on I'm trying to limit the size of the pot unless I'm really sure I've got the best hand. (And this still felt early even if there were only 4 players left).

Too often I've lost 2 or 3 of the early hands where I've raised pf. This can put me down on around 40-60 chips and I can normally come back from there.
Mostly I'll do my best to make sure I can lose 2-3 of these pots before I'm in trouble because I know that I'll get paid off on more certain hands. This smells like a dangerous leak but I'm having trouble plugging it.