Was Betting This Turn A Good Idea?

CO was 39/12 and BB was 11/7. I had a 100+ sample size on both of them.

Normally, I think I like a 3bet pre here.. but the dork in CO was calling everything. I had 3bet him at least twice earlier and got called both times.. I ended up on the wrong side of a suckout on both occasions. That probably should not have influenced my decision not to 3bet here.. but it did.

However, the fact CO checked the flop and turn convinced me he had nothing.. as he was a bet happy kinda fella. So I took a stab at the pot. Am I going to make any flush draw or Q fold? Not sure about the bet size here either.


$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
9 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($14.46)
UTG+1 ($9.55)
MP1 ($15.13)
MP2 ($3.85)
MP3 ($3.71)
CO ($14.62)
hero (BTN) ($10.19)
SB ($10.28)
BB ($13.59)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) hero is BTN
5 folds, CO raises to $0.20, hero calls $0.20, 1 fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.65, 3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, hero checks

Turn: ($0.65, 3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, hero bets $0.39

I can't be bothered typing an explaination on my phone, but don't call preflop. You can raise it. Min raises deserve no respect. If he did it with AA and 4bet shoves fold and make a note.

Turn bet is probably ok, I think your probably getting called by 55 though a decent amount, you have 14 outs though so no fear. Fold equity + actual equity = +ev I think

Originally Posted by scott_owen

I can't be bothered typing an explaination on my phone, but don't call preflop. You can raise it. Min raises deserve no respect. If he did it with AA and 4bet shoves fold and make a note.

I honestly totally agree with you. I was chicken. Attempted to explain why in OP but I realize that's no excuse. No place for chicken!

Originally Posted by derekeverett

Normally, I think I like a 3bet pre here.. but the dork in CO was calling everything. I had 3bet him at least twice earlier and got called both times.

Why are you worried about him calling everything when you have position and a strong hand against his wide range?

Originally Posted by d0zer

Why are you worried about him calling everything when you have position and a strong hand against his wide range?

I know this excuse won't cut the mustard.. but twice earlier he's called my 3bets. On both occasions I got into the hand with the best of it.. but ended up losing both hands.

This time around I just wanted to be sure and connect with a flop before building a pot up. My logic here is massively flawed.. I already realize that. It's a case of getting punched in the belly a couple times and trying real hard not to have it happen again.

I've already decided I won't make that mistake again.

Just wasn't sure if the river bet was a good idea or how to size it if it was.

as long as you realize your faulty emotion-based thought process.

and yeah I'd bet this turn.

Originally Posted by derekeverett

This time around I just wanted to be sure and connect with a flop before building a pot up.

I'd LOVE to jump all over this statement, but becuase of

Originally Posted by derekeverett

I've already decided I won't make that mistake again.

I won't. It sounds as if you realize your mistake which is half the battle.

And, yeah, I'd bet the turn but hit it to about $0.45.

Originally Posted by derekeverett

I know this excuse won't cut the mustard.. but twice earlier he's called my 3bets. On both occasions I got into the hand with the best of it.. but ended up losing both hands.

When you do this, as in fail to 3bet the AQ and know you should have, that's you tilting. Recognise it, stop playing and be tougher mentally next time you sit down

i kinda just skimmed thru the other replies, but your statement about 3 betting is troublesome.
you should be 3bing for value or as a bluff.
you say you didnt 3 bet cause he had been calling with everything..this should be more incentive for you to 3b AQ here for value as youre prob still way ahead of his 3b calling range.
this advice is obv opponent dependent .

3b pots ip vs poor opponents are also pretty fun

Originally Posted by scott_owen

When you do this, as in fail to 3bet the AQ and know you should have, that's you tilting. Recognise it, stop playing and be tougher mentally next time you sit down

This is interesting to me. I never really looked at it this way. I always viewed tilting as spewing chips and misplaced over-aggression. But I suppose missing opportunities out of frustration and being over-cautious creates it's own problems and is just another form of tilt.

Cool... learned something!

Originally Posted by thelorax

3b pots ip vs poor opponents are also pretty fun

lol I'll make this my new mantra!

Originally Posted by derekeverett

This is interesting to me. I never really looked at it this way. I always viewed tilting as spewing chips and misplaced over-aggression. But I suppose missing opportunities out of frustration and being over-cautious creates it's own problems and is just another form of tilt.

Cool... learned something!

It's partly that, but its also that's its the first sign and if you recognize it and stop you are away from the table before you spew a whole stack

the best definition of "tilt" i've ever come across is tommy angelo's: "tilt is is any deviation from A-game performance". to make a decision based on how you've been running/emotional factors etc is a deviation from A-game.

why dont we bet the flop? we have fold equity since they will fold most of times 22-99 and even if they dont, we still have ~ 35% equity vs the caling ranges