I think those hands are fine with reads, as long as the guy in the first hand is going broke with K2, Tx. If he's not going to call it off with a crap kicker, then there's no need to bet it like you did.

Long story short, if they'll felt any top pair and second pair hand, play 'em like you did. After you do it a few times, you'll be crushing them. If they give up and fold some hands like they should (and like I imagine they do), then stop playing so hard and ease up.

Also, rethink the term "value bet." It's not always as much as you can get called, especially with a TP-type hand.

And, on a side note, I would avoid advice from people who don't pay enough attention:

Quote Originally Posted by unclemikect
I'm of the mind that 2 calls frm opp Then he leads the river is a real wake up call
No opps lead any rivers.

Quote Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms
What are the chances of a medium PP hitting this board.
Depends on the rags, but we'll go with 50/50 or a little better. He also mentioned Kx and Tx, giving us a myriad of hands that we're ahead of. If they felt all said hands, we're way ahead here.