I had similar thoughts as to the non-applicability of the SSHE principles. I am playing 6-max, b/c that's about all AP has running these days, and so I think buckling down for 15K and seeing where I stand after that is the next logical step. Also, I'll check out that 2p2 book, b/c I haven't read a bad one of those yet - - they're all chock full of wisdom. Thanks y'all, and here's to crushing ppl that don't read our forum!!