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    Default turn broadway, river decision on flushed board

    Cake Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Cake-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($10.40)
    SB ($9.25)
    BB ($12.11)
    UTG ($9.31)
    UTG+1 ($16.19)
    MP1 ($2.57)
    MP2 ($12.78)
    MP3 ($9.90)
    Hero (CO) ($11.17)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K, J
    5 folds, Hero bets $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20

    Flop: ($0.65) 2, A, 10 (2 players)
    BB bets $0.33, Hero calls $0.33

    Turn: ($1.31) Q (2 players)
    BB bets $0.66, Hero raises to $2, BB calls $1.34

    River: ($5.31) 8 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $3.50, 1 fold

    Total pot: $5.31 | Rake: $0.35


    early on at table, villain is 70/20 over 10 hands, so potentially too loose, but way too few hands for any real reads

    i was contemplating between checking here, and b/f. i decided on the latter due to a smidgeon of fold equity vs flushes since i had the nut flush card (kd). villain took a while to figure out whether to call the turn raise or not.

    thoughts on the actions taken/bet sizing?
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    I think it's good, I guess he'd probably call $2.50 more than $3.50 -- no way he folds a flush.

    I'd raise the flop some % of the time based on what I thought of his donking range.
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    the play of the hand looks good but deciding to bet the river because you might get flushes to fold is pretty weird. for one, no flush is ever folding on the river after calling a turn raise with a draw and completing on the river. secondly, you are going to get a ton of value from all the pair/two pair hands he calls with. you are value bet/folding the river.
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    so your turning a straight into a bluff here is that correct?

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    i would like to take this moment to renig on the logic of getting flushes to fold.

    river bet is a vbet
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    pre is good. Flop is absolutely marginal. Turn is too small cos you want to set up river stacks. River play is ok except that your logic makes no sense. You are betting to generate calls from Ax/2pr hands. Fold equity is irrelevant, cos you have monster showdown value and villain isn't folding a flush plus you beat everything else.
    Last edited by daven; 09-09-2011 at 11:34 PM.
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    flatting the flop seems wrong. not much u can do - float and hope for a flush card to bluff on and hope he wasn't betting his FD, or hit your 4 outer.
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    Maybe it's a huge leak? But I never fold this flop for 1/2 pot. Gutter + BDNFD + donking ranges are often weak + plenty of bluffing outs (we probably have 22%-36% not counting the times he has something like 98dd). This guy may be too loose-passive but against most people I'd float and raise a ton of turn cards or just raise the flop.

    p.s. I think you can take most flush draws out of his range after he leads the turn.
    Last edited by baudib; 09-10-2011 at 03:42 AM.
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