Quote Originally Posted by LeFou

if he's playing by aok's rec these are both limpers.
I know but he isnt playing them like that.

Hand 1 he limped then bet the flop after he missed. He should have just check/folded the flo. All I was saying is that if you want to have a chance of making them fold postflop you need to raise preflop.

Hand 2 I misread and thought he minraised preflop (dunno where i got that???). So hand 2 is fine since the only thing I critisised was the imaginary minraise preflop.