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    Question TP Makes Weak Boat OTR; Facing Shove

    This is another "Wot's his Range" question

    $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
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    Stacks:
    UTG ($5.58) 56bb
    CO ($10.72) 107bb
    BTN ($12.02) 120bb
    DoubleJ (SB) ($10.05) 101bb
    BB ($12.69) 127bb - VPIP:17, PFR:13, 3B:0, AF:1.7, Hands:23

    Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 5 players) DoubleJ is SB
    3 folds, DoubleJ raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20

    Villain is tight has folded BB to 3 of 4 steals; he defended the other by calling. He may have me pegged as a serial stealer.

    Because I am.

    i 3x and he calls. Can i put him on {22+,A3s+,K7s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,98s,87s,76s,65s,A8o+, K9o+,Q9o+,J9o+,T9o}? What would he 3Bet here?

    Flop: ($0.60, 2 players)
    DoubleJ bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40

    I flop TP and bet. He calls again. My cBet% is ~75 (not sure what this was on the day though), but i'd-a thought that with a board this draw-y, he be raising big PPs, TPs and Trips. Yes? No?

    Turn: ($1.40, 2 players)
    DoubleJ bets $0.90, BB calls $0.90

    ..and now it's even more draw-y

    River: ($3.20, 2 players)
    DoubleJ bets $3, BB raises to $10.24, DoubleJ calls $5.45

    My TP now boats-up, i bet to get value from 22-JJ and 6x, and he shoves over. I need to be good 27+% of the time and am losing to only Tx and QQ+ so i call.

    Your thoughts on his range for each street, please
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    I would rather c/r this river. The board is SO drawy and everything bricks and it's a spot ppl wouldn't expect a check so they will bet. The most likely hand that will call, will also bet when you check.

    This is also a perfect spot to c/bomb Tx if we had it.

    Also good to note that this is a horrible spot to be bluff jamming, so we will rarely be bluffing so it's ok to be checking the strongest parts of our range here.
    Last edited by griffey24; 04-19-2013 at 01:03 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    I would rather c/r this river. The board is SO drawy and everything bricks and it's a spot ppl wouldn't expect a check so they will bet. The most likely hand that will call, will also bet when you check.

    This is also a perfect spot to c/bomb Tx if we had it.
    OK, thanks griffey - this is something (else) i need to be working on then.

    Back to OP:- Your thoughts on his range for each street, if'n u don't mind...
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    What's his 3b pre? Will influence his range a lot probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    What's his 3b pre? Will influence his range a lot probably.
    Stats in OP. 3Bet = 0% but i've only got 23 hands on him....
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    I think the chances of him having Tx are slim to none here due to the fact he never raised the flop or turn. There's only 1 combo of QQ so that speaks for itself plus the fact he would 3-bet it pre-flop a large % of the time.

    I think his range is weighted heavily towards Qx but he could show up with Tx a fraction of the time. Don't know if villain is spewy enough to jam this with a bricked draw. You'd have to have seen him do some crazy shit to even start to consider he may be bluffing here.
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    In spots where tons of draws miss on the river and you have a strong hand, at least consider checking as a part of your default thought process. Come post some hands in the FTR CHAT ROOM (no download needed) of spots where you're considering a check on the river under similar circumstances.

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