TP+FD

Originally Posted by Razvan729

@Kmind

i called pre cause when i played with pokerstove i seen that 78s-9Ts against 2-3 opps with tight ranges like 88+, AQso+, has about 20-25% equity, if opps ranges are wider then my equity improves also. when was my turn to act i was getting 3:1 pot odds with 25% equity so i said its ok calling, when BB also called my odds were 4:1.

if its not ok my thinking pls tell me to make it right.

The thing is that PokerStove is for all-in equity so we have to assume we see all 5 community cards. This is almost never the case unless we flop twopair+/OESD/FD and even so we often only see just the turn when we flop one of those draws.

My point, besides what was mentioned above, is that we often don't have the implied odds that we think we do with SCs. They can also be great hands to semi-bluff with but vs. an UTG player plus "Reg" callers then we actually won't be able to use our FE. This makes calling pre suck. However, in THIS spot calling can be fine because we have a certain exception in that the cold caller is a fish. If, say stacks were bigger too, then yeah that's another exception. Or if the UTG player was pretty loose, etc. But then we have to figure out if we should be calling more with mid-SC rather than Axs. That's a whole other discussion.