Quote Originally Posted by martindcx1e
Quote Originally Posted by Thee One
I bet/raise to get action. People think I'll put money in the pot on any two...and I will at times. The key is for them to guess when I have a hand and when I don't. Also I don't like making hard decisions, so I frequently bet to see if anyone is willing to fight for the pot and raise to see if I'm being bluffed.
If you are betting with any 2 that means you are bluffing and that is a good reason to bet/raise.

Quote Originally Posted by Thee One
It could be a leak, BUT if your looser table image allows you to get paid off more then I think it more than balances out when you start playing for stacks with your set vs TPTK because Mr. Table-Cop is tired of folding to your raises.
You can have a loose table image while never betting solely to find out where you're at.

Quote Originally Posted by Thee One
Really, it IS about knowing where you are in a hand. True, people slow play monsters all the time, but you're not value betting your 2nd pair...you're trying to take the pot down or get out.
If you are betting/raising 2nd pair it's probably because you are protecting your hand or are trying to bluff someone off a better hand. You're only betting/raising for value when you know you are up against a calling station.
Then I think it's semantics. Betting to see where you are entails all of those things. The intended end result is to take down the pot, whether on the spot or after extracting maximum value. The term 'betting to see where you are' is what really seems like it bothers you, not the group of actions that actually comprise the generic term.

That said, I agree that a person who doesn't know why he is betting has a leak. But simply 'betting to see where you are' can have either a lot of wisdom or a lot of ignorance. Depends on what, if any, intent is behind the generic term.