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 Originally Posted by martindcx1e
If I were to raise in this situation it would be to protect my hand against straight draws and overs. If you just call then there are many players left to act behind you and it's 10 to them to win 38. You find out where you're at as an added benefit.
You give them 4:1 pot odds and you're not gaining much information at all.
Anyway, in this example I was still feeling the table out and developing an image.
Originally Posted by martindcx1e
Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
I think the "bet to see where you're at" should only be done when the probability is in your favor that you have the better hand. If you do that, it's +EV isn't it?
I don't think it should ever be done 
It's not +EV in way ahead/way behind situations
How is it not +EV in way ahead situations? I'm confused.
I figure the labels don't matter. There are a lot of advantages to betting, and the more of them you can add up the more reason you have to bet. Maybe protecting your hand adds a lot and gaining info adds a variable amount based on how much info you get and what it's worth (can it give you an EXACT hand?).
EDIT:
I think the point of this thread is that you need a good reason to bet or raise. A lot of players use information as a reason when it's not a good enough one. Thats is a leak, leaks suck.
End of story?
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