Quote Originally Posted by bigboy5540
Quote Originally Posted by piratepeaty
Quote Originally Posted by bigboy5540
LOL of course it is a feeler bet pirate. man if you are called you know you are probably beat. If you are raised you know now that you are beat. That is the definition of "feeler bet". cmon man.
I don't agree. You aren't nessesarily beat. How many times have you been called by junk? how many times are you raised with junk? in your example, villian could easily have J9 for an open ended draw. He may raise you, or he may just call. Does it mean you are beat?

Obviously not. It does help narrow down his range, but I still stand by my original post that the bet is PRIMARILY for protection.
pirate ur an idiot. of course you can be raised by junk on any hand. yes even feeler bets can get raised by junk. surprise surprise..this doesn't mean its not in fact still a feeler bet. LOL you are funny man. i cracked up when i read this. so can u define a situation where you feeler bet cannot get raised with junk?? LOL
You should try to understand a person's point before insulting them. You may even learn something. The fact that you can get raised by junk means the information you are getting from your bet isn't reliable. It's also extremely expensive with relation to the pot size.

My point is, the information you get from a 'feeler' bet is not reliable unless your opponent is extremely predictable. Even then, sometimes your opponent may suprise you.

And if you're calling me an idiot, you might as well call David Sklansky an idiot as well. Theory of Poker says "consider any information gained [by raising] as an extra benefit of a raise you are making for other reasons." I whole-heartedly agree.

I know that 'feeler bets' exist. I know that people bet to "see where they are". Personally, I think it is a huge waste of money. I'm happy to say that raising or betting strictly for information is NOT in my poker arsenal.