Quote Originally Posted by pgil
I don't know if a 4-bet AI pf range is as heavily skewed towards AA as you think it is. Many players will simply call the 3-bet with AA and attempt to get the rest in on the flop. I would imagine that you are just as likely to see QQ, KK, AK (outside chance) 4-bet pf.
I think it is very reasonable to assume AA is considerably more likely to 4bet all-in preflop than QQ. Also, there may be many players who only call 3bets with AA - I doubt that's the majority especially at lower stakes. Also, if AK is an "outside chance" then how can it be "just as likely"?

Quote Originally Posted by pgil
If you hold KK, then opp is less likely to also have KK, meaning you are either a 4:1 dog, or a 4:1 favourite. Seems break even, until you add in the small chance of JJ, AK, or a "resteal" attempt with random crap.
why aren't you adding in this small chance when you hold QQ? of course KK is ahead if you make up a completely different range when you hold it. QQ is ahead of such a range also. it seems like when people hold QQ they play smart but when they hold KK their mind warps and they start remembering all those times they saw ppl move all-in with crap.