Thoughts?

Originally Posted by seven-deuce

@B-Squared cheers for the reply!

I don't think you can analyze the EV of 3betting as you have in your post because what happens post-flop will affect the EV in a considerable way. I don't know how to do it either. Yeah some of the stronger hands in the range you have provided I would call as well such as AQ KQ JT TT etc because you will have a lot of the hands in villain's range dominated and you just wanna have a stronger range in general when you're OOP.

There's a way of working out the optimal bluff:value ratio regarding 3bets I think it has something to do with the Alpha Value. Anyway when you look at things from villain's perspective he has to continue a certain % of the time to avoid getting exploited. If you figure out he's playing exploitably by either continuing too little or too much you can deviate from your optimal 3bet bluff:value ratio in order to exploit him.

Bear in mind, once you've spotted a weakness that you can take advantage of you don't wanna alert Villain to the fact that you're exploiting him. So it's better to adjust in a measured way as opposed to 3betting some insane amount of bluffs, which will tip villain off almost immediately as to what you're doing.

That makes sense... yes I didn't consider the post-flop stuff on EV! Donkies gonna donk :P. I feel like to form a the optimal range for the villain you would need a lot of information :S. I understand the idea of the optimal ratio and deviating from it conceptually, but arriving at a range mathematically sounds 2spooky4me. Anyway sorry for hijacking your thread