Quote Originally Posted by Penneywize View Post
two reasons; one, we stand to potentially get value from a worse hand (dry board, we lack reads on villain etc. but it's obviously not inconceivable that he may call here) and two, alternatively, villain may fold out his equity in the hand with some probability.
That's right, but what gets at me is that Hero should hope for outcome 2).

So he bets and hopes that a worse hand folds.

Is that still a value bet?