Quote Originally Posted by Pelion
Quote Originally Posted by Chopper
you do get to act last pf.
Lol I love it when people say this. You act first. In even moderatly aggressive games its no different to looking at your cards and then raising any 2 UTG. Thats why the blind positions are losing money in everyones database past 2NL.
sure, maybe its the same thing as a minraise UTG, in theory.

but, technically, and please correct me if i am wrong, UTG+1 is the first one that can fold "for free."

and, everyone has to double the small blind to see a flop, minimum...even the big blind. only you, the straddle, can check if you dont like what you see...or you can raise once you see how many people decided to call your straddle. therefore, you ACT LAST preflop. yes?

i guess, technically, you acted third...after the blinds, but in terms of gaining information, you pay double the big blind to see all the action you can before you have to make up your mind.

to me, that is acting last.