Stop looking at your cards!

Your cards only matter as blockers unless you get to showdown.

Originally Posted by Outlaw

Your cards only matter as blockers unless you get to showdown.

This is completely untrue. Your equity on each street greatly impacts how you play, regardless of how often you expect to get to showdown.

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

This is completely untrue. Your equity on each street greatly impacts how you play, regardless of how often you expect to get to showdown.

If we don't know our cards we can't play based on our own equity which is what the OP is talking about. It would be nice to know our blockers though, so that we could more accurately talk about our opponents ranges.

Based on OPs exercise, you still have to play as if you don't know your cards.. but only have a perceived range that the villain is using... and he never knows your exact holding.

Just make sure if you use this exercise, that your opponent is at least on level 2.. otherwise you are leveling yourself.

BTW, I really like this thread.

Originally Posted by Outlaw

Your cards only matter as blockers unless you get to showdown.

Outlaw I would be really interested in hearing you explain this in detail please. I am assuming you have a theory or philosophy to which you base this statement. Please do share!

I suggest we do a test - simply cover the hole cards on the screen with some sticky paper, and play some low stakes (although not the lowest), something like NL50. It'd be quite interesting to see the results after say 30,000 hands. I actually think I might try this just for fun thx for an idea

It really helped me be more effective with c-betting. When to and not to based on flop texture range and preflop action. A lot of micro donks default play is to c-bet like 100% and they do it in bad spots all the time. It also helped me a lot in playing back and picking them off when the story didnt make sense.

Originally Posted by ggpokergg

I suggest we do a test - simply cover the hole cards on the screen with some sticky paper, and play some low stakes (although not the lowest), something like NL50. It'd be quite interesting to see the results after say 30,000 hands. I actually think I might try this just for fun thx for an idea

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Originally Posted by ggpokergg

I suggest we do a test - simply cover the hole cards on the screen with some sticky paper, and play some low stakes (although not the lowest), something like NL50. It'd be quite interesting to see the results after say 30,000 hands. I actually think I might try this just for fun thx for an idea

with all the reespect for all the players and their experience, but anyone that will do this, after 30k hands will be broke world champ, univers poker god, who ever you are, your hand is a big factor in playing the game besides good reads on the opp and intepreting the board texture. you need all to be a winner, not having one of these is a straight way to going broke