Quote Originally Posted by Robb
Quote Originally Posted by kb coolman
Quote Originally Posted by iopq
anyway, the plan is to hit two pair, not trips
if you hit trips try to play for pot control
Exactly. This is what I get for not playing by the rules...
This thread doesn't seem to make any sense to me. I'm felting this against most 10nl opponents. (Any other reads would help, btw.) At 10nl, imo, villains who are 33/14 will play lots of sc's/Axs draws this way. Also, I've seen a lot of A7 and A9 hands played this way. In my view, you're ahead more often than behind. I would felt it, or call the shove.

Also, with trips as with sets, you have 10 outs to the full house on the river which would beat the flush (if it came in).

Last thing, any additional reads on villain would be nice. Is he passive? That would change my mind about the all-in call. I'm worried here against someone who otherwise plays timid. Is he aggressive? Then it's an insta call, imo. What has stacked off with? A lot of 10nl opponents will stack off with 2nd pair. If he's one of them, you've got the nuts with trips and should felt it.

Obviously, the reason you're posting is because you got beat. Don't be too results oriented. He's got a really wide open range limping behind a limper, and he obviously liked the board. But I think his range is wide enough that you're ahead. Lots of big draws haven't gotten there, yet.

IOPQ, playing for pot control against a 33/14 on a drawy board is a good way to give great reverse implied odds to your opponents. And why in the world would 2 pair be better than trips here?
1. People don't play draws aggressively in NL10. They usually have it.
2. Op didn't say he had a read that he stacked off with second pair.
3. Because if you had made two pair on the turn instead of trips, you'd beat more of your opponent's range
4. I'd rather lose a pot than a stack because in NL bets are more important that pots (whereas in limit, pots are more important than bets)