Select Page
Poker Forum
Over 1,292,000 Posts!
Poker ForumBeginners Circle

Spoony Exercise 4: Exploitative Play and Adjustments

Results 1 to 31 of 31
  1. #1
    spoonitnow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    14,219
    Location
    North Carolina

    Default Spoony Exercise 4: Exploitative Play and Adjustments

    You should have read and participated in Exercise 1 (link), Exercise 2 (link), and Exercise 3 (link) before participating in this one.

    In Exercise 3 we looked at how when you are exploiting someone's play you open yourself up to being exploited. This always happens when you are playing exploitatively, and is part of the paper-rock-scissors nature of exploitation and adjustments in poker. Thankfully 99%+ of the people you will play at 100nl and lower won't be counter-adjusting. In Exercise 3, you adjusted to how the button was likely to play the flop by continuation betting the flop with a wide range of hands that missed. You saw that he could very easily counter-adjust by raising the flop, but the point is that he rarely will. Even when he does adjust, he will hardly ever be adjusting enough for you to need to counter-adjust in return.

    This sets up a really simple formula for beating the crap out of micro and small stakes. It's seriously like playing paper-rock-scissors with someone for money who always plays rock or always plays paper or always plays scissors. Find tendencies of your opponents, play your range in a way that exploits these tendencies to some degree, and count the money as it piles up in your account.

    Today's exercise is based around this. I'm going to list some really common situations and give you fill-in-the-blank questions to answer. Sometimes there will be more than one right answer.

    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by __________ more and __________ less.
    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by __________ more and __________ less.
    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by __________ more.
    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by __________ more.
    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by __________ more.
    Last edited by spoonitnow; 07-04-2010 at 09:53 PM.
  2. #2
    !Luck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    1,876
    Location
    Under a bridge
    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by raising more pre and and a wider range, and c betting more as well more.
    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets too a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by c betting less with air and bet more of your middle type hands, avoid semi bluffing as much more.
    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by ZOMG upon up your range more.
    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by 3-bet bluff semi bluff flop more and c-bet less often less.
    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by VALUE BET more and SEMI BLUFF/bluff less.
    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by 3-bet wide more.
    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by ZOMG steal their blinds or play cards with high implied value like pocket pairs and suited connectors in position, but that depends on post flop play more.
    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by raising their c-bet with more semi bluff type hands more.
  3. #3
    1. cbetting more, raising a wider range PF
    2. misread, obv we should barrel and value-bet lighter on the flop
    3. raising more when they're in the blinds, adjusting post-flop considering you'll be up against a stronger than normal range when they do call
    4. checking back, continuation betting
    5. value-betting/semi-bluffing, bluffing
    6. who knows, you didn't give any info about their fold/call 3bet tendencies
    7. not much you can do, certainly nothing I'd do more but fold some junk 3betting hands
    8. raising/floating/bluffing/calling with a weaker made-hand range. Tough to stay b/c we need information on their turn tendencies.
  4. #4
    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by opening wider preflop when they are going to be the likely caller (i.e. iso raise or bu vs bb) and cbetting as a bluff/semi bluff more in spots you might check back vs someone who doesn't fold much.
    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets too a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by barreling more and cbetting.
    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by stealing them more.
    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by 3betting bluffing/semibluffing more and cbetting less.
    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by barreling for thinner value more and bluffing less.
    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by 3betting them more (however the types of hands you 3bet will depend on how this player plays postflop).
    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by folding dominated hands more(?lol).
    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by floating, bluff raising, etc (though turn tendencies will dictate best course of action) more.
  5. #5
    Alright, I'm going to do this without looking at anyone's previous answers so I can see how terrible I am at adjusting to common situations.

    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by isolating them with a wider range and c-betting more.
    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets too a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by c-betting and double barreling more, but value betting only strong made hands on the river since his range will be fairly strong.
    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by opening up out BTN range more, and depending on BTN and CO's tendencies we can open our CO and HJ ranges more as well. Post flop we might need to tread a little more cautiously since their ranges will be significantly stronger then our weaker stealing range.
    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by value betting the flop more with our stronger made hands and c-betting our air/weak draws that we aren't willing to stack off with/weak made hands less.
    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by value betting a LOT more and firing multiple barrels with air less.
    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by calling more or 3-betting a wider range as either a bluff or for value depending on how often he folds to 3-bets.
    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by fold our dominated hands and call with hands that have high implied odds like SCs, PPs, etc.
    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by raising their c-bets or floating more and folding less in general to their c-bets with hands that have some equity.
  6. #6
    daviddem's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,505
    Location
    Philippines/Saudi Arabia
    1. cbetting more. However I have a question about this one: When I cbet my good hands, I have very little chance of him calling with a worse hand. In that case should I shift my cbetting range towards air and weak hands, and basically slowplay my good hands more?
    2. double-barreling
    3. stealing
    4. value-betting more and cbetting as a bluff or semi-bluff less
    5. value-betting more and bluffing less
    6. 3-betting
    7. folding
    8. raising or floating

    edit: m2m you're cheating: you did not do part 1, 2 and 3! Would have loved to see your answers to those.
    Last edited by daviddem; 02-20-2010 at 04:21 AM.
  7. #7
    spoonitnow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    14,219
    Location
    North Carolina
    Quote Originally Posted by daviddem View Post
    1. cbetting more. However I have a question about this one: When I cbet my good hands, I have very little chance of him calling with a worse hand. In that case should I shift my cbetting range towards air and weak hands, and basically slowplay my good hands more?
    Just think of a general situation where someone has a calling range and a raising range and you plan to bet/fold (because if you're not folding to a raise who gives a shit amirite). To value bet, you need to have a certain equity against his calling range (hint: a bit more than 50%) so that you're sufficiently ahead of his calling range enough to compensate for the times you get raised off of your hand. So if his calling range becomes tighter, the hands you can value bet decrease.

    Think about it in terms of an all-in bet where you don't have to worry about getting raised. If his calling range is 20 combinations, then [in a vacuum] to make a +EV value bet, you have to be beating more than half of it. So say you have some hand X that beats the 11 worst combinations. If his calling range shrinks to the best 14 combinations instead, now you only beat the worst 5 of those instead of 11 with hand X, and won't have a +EV value bet.
  8. #8
    I really think these would have more benefit if the better players would not answer the posts so quickly like the other three threads. I think more conversation would be had. And we do know what spoon fed (hehe) answers do to the learning process as opposed to the deduction of reasoning. Rarely do AHA moments come from being told.
  9. #9
    nh
  10. #10
    Come on people, this is the easiest of the 4 exercises spoon has put up. You're doing yourself a disservice for not posting your answers to these questions and the other posts.
  11. #11
    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by opening wider and cbetting more.
    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets too a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by cbetting the flop and turn more.
    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by stealing more.
    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by tightening up pf more and cbetting less when you don't hit.
    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by value betting good hands more and bluffing less.
    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by idk, um drinking more. Or tightening up more
    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by 3betting more.
    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by raising more.
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  12. #12
    i want bother answering all questions as that's already been done but i will a couple suggestions of my own. Hope i'm not just regurgitating what someone else said. If a player folds a lot to c-bets not only should you c-bett more you should DB less. If some one c-bets a lot one adjustment you can make is flatting their pf raises with QQ+ We will assume we will be first to act on the flop. Check the flop. Then when they raise either call or raise depending on how they usually play the turn.
  13. #13
    spoonitnow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    14,219
    Location
    North Carolina
    Quote Originally Posted by littleogre View Post
    i want bother answering all questions as that's already been done
    Okay then don't expect to get anything out of this.
  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    Okay then don't expect to get anything out of this.
    Well the questions have already been answered a lot of times and everyone has said pretty much the same thing.
  15. #15
    spoonitnow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    14,219
    Location
    North Carolina
    Quote Originally Posted by littleogre View Post
    Well the questions have already been answered a lot of times and everyone has said pretty much the same thing.
    Nah man, what I'm saying is that this is for each one of you as an individual to put your time in thinking about these things without looking at the other peoples answers to bring you through a thought process over the series of these exercises to get you to see poker in a simpler light and make it easier to win.
  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post

    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    A. Continuation-bet
    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets too a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    A. 2-barrelling
    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    A. Stealing
    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by __________ more and __________ less.
    A. (this one I'm not sure about) checking the flop more and c-betting less.
    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by __________ more and __________ less.
    A. value-betting more and bluffing less
    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by __________ more.
    A. Re-raising (3-betting)
    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by __________ more.
    A. flat-calling more, but a smaller percentage of your range.
    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by __________ more.
    A. I don't know on this one... I don't see the logic in my answers on this question. I believe this is a multi-part answer, like re-raising your better range and flat calling the lower end of your range, but I see how transparent and exploitable it is...
    I'm doing this without reading the rest of the answers... I'd love to have some of these down and know the right way to approach them, I haven't really done a lot of thinking about my game on this level and it is what I need to do to get ahead in the micros (rather than having flat graphs, like I have). Please let me know your thoughts on my answers.
  17. #17
    spoonitnow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    14,219
    Location
    North Carolina
    @Monty3038

    1. This is right, and you can also open up preflop knowing you can take down more pots on the flop. For example, someone who limp/calls a lot preflop and folds to a lot of c-bets on the flop you could isolate with some pretty weak hands in position and it be +EV. Being heads-up in position is the nuts.
    2. This is right, and another adjustment could just be to c-bet the flop as a bluff less often, especially if you won't have a lot of good turn opportunities to double barrel.
    3. This is right, you should steal more often since your fold equity is higher.
    4. You're right on this one too, but I was looking for 3-bet bluffing the flop more, and obviously c-betting with air less. You could also look to value bet the flop more depending on how they play to 3-bets.
    5. This one is key to beating calling stations, and even though it seems like common sense here reading this and working it out, how often do we really think in these terms?
    6. I threw this in as sort of a trick. Yes, you can adjust by 3-betting more, but you don't know if you'll be 3-betting more as a bluff or for value because I didn't tell you how often they're just calling your 3-bet. If they're almost never calling, then bluff them a lot, and if they're almost always calling, value bet them a lot. It's basic stuff applied to another scenario.
    7. You could be calling more of their raises in position because of your increased implied odds. This sort of ties in to what EasyPoker quotes at the beginning of this thread http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...in-178211.html
    8. Like most of the questions above, there are multiple things that could be considered a "right" answer depending on what else we know about our opponent's play. You could bluff raise the flop more, float more, or call him down with a wider range.

    This is just like paper-rock-scissors. Each action has a natural counter, and you find this natural counter by looking at the strength of your opponents' ranges. For example, if they have a strong range, you tend to bluff less, and if they have a weak range, you tend to bluff more. In number 7 you probably wouldn't adjust by 3-bet bluffing more often because your opponent's range is stronger. But in number 8 you could adjust by bluff raising more often because your opponent's range is weaker.

    Good work, now start to think about this when you're playing. If you see a nit raises from EP 100bb deep, call him with 65s and try to stack him. If some tagg opens preflop and c-bets 90% of flops, call with 65s in position and raise his c-bets if you catch a favorable board (like a board that his range doesn't hit super hard and that gives you some equity, like J73r).
  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    Nah man, what I'm saying is that this is for each one of you as an individual to put your time in thinking about these things without looking at the other peoples answers to bring you through a thought process over the series of these exercises to get you to see poker in a simpler light and make it easier to win.
    Don't get me wrong i did actually take the time to read the questions but most of my answers were the same as the ones already posted but off the top of my head i though of a couple adjustments that i didn't notice anyone else posting Another important factor is i hate typing. I'm a true search and peck type guy.
  19. #19
    JKDS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    6,780
    Location
    Chandler, AZ
    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post

    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets too a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by __________ more and __________ less.
    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by __________ more and __________ less.
    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by __________ more.
    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by __________ more.
    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by __________ more.
    1. cbetting with a wider range. this may mean raising more preflop depending on other table dynamics
    2. double barreling more. id probably start value betting flops with middle pairs or other weak hands since ill be called pretty often, and id probably always cbet and db my draws....maybe as weak as 5outters...dunno.
    3. raping them. their blinds that is
    4. 3betting more, cbetting less. could also check more and cbet less, mainly we're just trying to not be exploited by having a raising monkey so id be cbetting a range that could take a raise from him.
    5. valuebetting moar, bruffing less. i probably still cbet a ton, but i make my sizing smaller with bluffs and larger with my value range and expect him not to notice for awhile. id also try really hard to find that spot where he questions a call with middle pair and then bet just under that amount on every street with my goodies.
    6. hrrrrrm. dunno how often he calls or how he responds postflop. id probably call with moderate hands more often ip, i might start 3betting more
    7. mining more. id fuck around with high implied odds hands, and probably 3bet my monsters expecting to get paid.
    8. raising or floating the flop more depending on his reaction to a raise and hsi reaction to a call.
  20. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    You should have read and participated in Exercise 1 (link), Exercise 2 (link), and Exercise 3 (link) before participating in this one.

    In Exercise 3 we looked at how when you are exploiting someone's play you open yourself up to being exploited. This always happens when you are playing exploitatively, and is part of the paper-rock-scissors nature of exploitation and adjustments in poker. Thankfully 99%+ of the people you will play at 100nl and lower won't be counter-adjusting. In Exercise 3, you adjusted to how the button was likely to play the flop by continuation betting the flop with a wide range of hands that missed. You saw that he could very easily counter-adjust by raising the flop, but the point is that he rarely will. Even when he does adjust, he will hardly ever be adjusting enough for you to need to counter-adjust in return.

    This sets up a really simple formula for beating the crap out of micro and small stakes. It's seriously like playing paper-rock-scissors with someone for money who always plays rock or always plays paper or always plays scissors. Find tendencies of your opponents, play your range in a way that exploits these tendencies to some degree, and count the money as it piles up in your account.

    Today's exercise is based around this. I'm going to list some really common situations and give you fill-in-the-blank questions to answer. Sometimes there will be more than one right answer.

    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets too a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by __________ more and __________ less.
    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by __________ more and __________ less.
    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by __________ more.
    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by __________ more.
    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by __________ more.
    1. widening your range, bluffing
    2. again widening range; betting to maximize on the flop rather than take down the pot; bluff
    3. Betting more often
    4. re-raising more and cbetting/bluffing less
    5. value betting more and bluffing less
    6. 3/4-betting more???? total guess
    7. widening range (edit - oops i meant loosen up against tight players...but obv open raising means they have a good hand). if i could put a line through this, i would lol.
    8. raising their bets with good hands

    All of my answers were without looking at anyone elses lol, so don't flame me if they're wildly out. Also, I feel there were more answers for a few of the questions, but at my lowly level, the things I said would be sufficient to beat it.
    Last edited by EasyPoker; 02-25-2010 at 09:26 PM.
  21. #21
    Vinland's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    1,017
    Location
    Canada; the country all tucked away down there...
    I didnt look at any answers yet.....but I will now.



    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by _Cbetting___ more.
    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets too a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by _double barreling___ more.
    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by __stealing_____ more.
    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by __checking ____ more and _cbetting____ less.
    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by _value betting___ more and __checking__ less.
    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by __3betting____ more.
    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by __folding____ more.
    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by __re-raising____ more.
  22. #22
    rpm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    3,084
    Location
    maaaaaaaaaaate
    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by raising IP and cbetting more (and two-barreling less when called).
    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets too a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by opening lots, cbetting lots, and betting appropriate turn cards more.
    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by opening wider in the HJ, CO, and BU more.
    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by 3betting flops more and cbetting less air.
    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by value betting more and bluffing less.
    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by 3betting more.
    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by setmining with slightly lower implied odds? folding more easily dominated hands?
    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by raising flops/checkraising flops/floating flops and betting turns more.
  23. #23
    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by C-BETTING A WIDER RANGE more.
    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets too a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by FLOATING more.
    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by STEAL more.
    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by VALUE BETTING more and C-BETTING less.
    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by VALUE BETTING more and BLUFFING less.
    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by 3-BETTING more.
    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by AVOIDING CALLING WITH HANDS THAT WILL BE DOMINATED more.
    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by FLOAT / 3-BETTING THE CBET more.

    I am not sure about no. 7 though.
  24. #24
    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by Continuation betting more.
    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets too a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by 2-barreling more.
    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by stealing more.
    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by value-betting more and stealing less.
    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by value-betting more and bluffing/semi-bluffing less.
    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by 3-betting more.
    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by folding/set-mining/playing drawing hands more. (I usually set-mine these players as they are happy to stack post with an over pair quite frequently) the folding more & set mining/playing drawing hands seem to contradict one-another, but I mean folding things with some equity versus normal ranges like a lot of broadways, and treating anything below the middle of their opening range as a drawing hand (esp. pockets). incidentally this usually means 3-betting less.
    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by check-raising, calling and donking the turn more.
  25. #25
    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    - Opening wider
    - C-betting more frequently

    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    - Let him float you when you're strong
    - Dbl barrelling air/draws more

    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    - Stealing more/open wider
    - Occassionally open limping monsters in late pos (balance with a few crap)?

    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by __________ more and __________ less.
    - Cbetting strong hands more and draws, 4betting both these
    - Chk-calling marginal hands to get to showdown cheaply rather than be put to decision when cbet raised
    -cbet air less, although occassionally balance (if opp is 1/2 decent) by cbet-4betting air

    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by __________ more and __________ less.
    - Vbetting more on all 3 streets
    -Cbetting air less
    - Open slightly tighter range pf in pots with him to ensure we can make value bets post flop (is there an argument to open a wider range though, as money can be made out of marginal spots?)

    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by __________ more.
    - 3betting light more
    - folding less than KK to pf 4bet
    - Cbet more if not 4betted pf as his range prob doesn't include premium hands.

    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by __________ more.
    -Set mining more/suited conns.
    -Give more respect to raiser's range.

    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by __________ more.
    - Floating more/stealing turn
    - Raise cbet lighter
    - Call down lighter
    - Pf, maybe just flat with AA/KK in order to encourage him to cbet flop light
    Last edited by parislad; 07-18-2010 at 01:22 PM.
    Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups
  26. #26
    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    Continuation bet a wider range. You can also open a wider range to isolate with the intent to steal on the flop.

    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    Double-barreling more.

    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by __________ more.
    Stealing more.

    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by __________ more and __________ less.
    Make less continuation bets. If the villain folds to 3bets, you can 3bet as a bluff more. If they call your 3bet too much or 4bet light, you can 3bet for value more.

    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by __________ more and __________ less.
    Value bet more and bluff less.

    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by __________ more.
    If the villain folds to 3bets too much, you can 3bet bluff them more. If they are likely to call 3bets too much, you can widen your 3bet range to include more value hands.

    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by __________ more.
    Calling with speculative hands that can stack top-pair/overpair hands (set mine, suited connectors).

    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by __________ more.
    Do they play fit or fold on the turn? Float more.
    Double-barrel/triple-barrel too much? Call more often with hands that have SD value.
    Do they fold to raises? Steal-raise their cbets more.
    Do they call too many raises? Value-raise their cbets more.
  27. #27
    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by c-betting flop more.

    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by c-betting turn more.

    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by opening for a raise OTB more.

    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by checking to him more and c-betting less.

    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by valuebetting him more and bluffing less.

    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by 3betting his openers more.

    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by folding before the flop more.

    note: it's default adjustment, we can't call with speculative hands if we don't know how this player responds to aggression. He may pay off too much or lay down too often, but we must know this before calling his raise.

    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by raising flop/folding preflop more.

    note:
    -raising flop vs wider ranges, when there's exploitable gap between villain's bet/fold and bet/(not fold) ranges
    -folding preflop vs tight preflop ranges (supernits will have stronger hand on flop on average, so their c-bets will be valuebets more often, by default)
    Last edited by Vrax; 09-29-2010 at 02:56 PM.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
  28. #28
    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by increasing my preflop range, and c-betting more.

    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by double-barrelling more, folding to his 3-bets and only playing strong hands to showdown.

    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by raising preflop more.

    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by raising more with strong hands and bluffing less.

    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by betting more with a wider range of made-hands , and bluffing less.

    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by 3-betting more with stronger hands.

    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by pre-flop raising more, and respecting the strength of his preflop range more.

    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by 3-betting more, bluffing more or playing a tighter pre-flop range. Or- your momma.
  29. #29
    1. If someone folds to flop continuation bets a whole lot, you can adjust by cbetting more if you want to steal the pot.

    2. If someone calls the flop continuation bets a whole lot and folds to a turn continuation bet a whole lot, you can adjust by treating your flop cbet as a value bet, and stealing the pot by cbetting the turn more, while being aware that if he does get aggressive, he probably has a good hand.

    3. If someone folds their blinds pre-flop a whole lot, you can adjust by stealing the blinds more.

    4. If someone raises flop continuation bets a lot, you can adjust by checking the flop more and bluffing less.

    5. If someone calls down multiple streets with any piece, you can adjust by betting good hands more and checking less.

    6. If someone open-raises a very wide range pre-flop and doesn't 4-bet a wide range, you can adjust by 3betting more, both to force him out of the hand and to get information when he does 4bet.

    7. If someone open-raises a very tight range pre-flop, you can adjust by only playing strong hands, or simply folding pre-flop more.

    8. If someone continuation bets the flop a lot of the time, you can adjust by raising the flop more, to get more information on him or to steal the pot
    Last edited by TheTouch; 01-10-2011 at 11:14 AM.
  30. #30
    1 c-bet
    2 barrel
    3 steal
    4 c/r more, c-bet less, switch tables if they're on your left
    5 check more, barrel less
    6 3-bet
    7 fold more, call with longshot hands when deep, make moves on low boards
    8 floating and raising
  31. #31
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    358
    Location
    getting reemed by fee hikes, ca
    1. c-betting more. open wider when said villain is in the blinds and c-betting.
    2. barreling more turns. floating to steal the turn more.
    3. raising more from lp.
    4. 3betting more. c-betting less.
    5. value betting a lighter range and betting more with value hands. bluffing less.
    6. 3betting a shitload more ip. folding the majority of our range to 4bets.
    7. flat with hands with good implied odds more. fold lots of meh broadways etc. 3bet less.
    8. c/r'ing a wider range on the flop. floating more.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •