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  1. #1
    Shit, I finally got my lazy ass and done this:

    Assume 100bb starting stacks. The BU is a nitty TAGG who does not 3-bet very much pre-flop and does not seem to call raises with a wide range of hands. He plays fit-or-fold post-flop for the most part. Assume something like 11/9 in FR or 17/14 in 6-max. The SB is a loose-ish TAGG (think something like 18/15 in FR or 27/24 in 6-max) who 3-bets pre-flop 6% and is capable of 3-bluffing OOP. He also leads a lot of flops, c-bets 85%, and c-bets the turn 60%, being very aggressive. The BB is a complete unknown.
    It folds to our Hero pre-flop in the CO who raises to 3 times the big blind [1].
    std range
    45s-JTs
    T8s-QTs
    AK, AQ, AJ
    A2s-AQs
    22-AA

    Addon range JT+ because of BTN nit. He won't 3bet me light and I want high card strength (and hit more flops) against small blind who likes to test but not commit. Fold A9 or worse, K9 or worse, Q9 or worse, Q9s is marginal for me, but probably fold too. Yes, I'm nit.

    The BU calls, and the blinds fold. The flop pot is 7.5 big blinds, and the flop comes T 6 5 . Hero bets 5 big blinds [2] and the BU calls.
    The hand didn't go with the plan, tagnit with position is kinda bad news. Tagnit's PFC range is mostly mid PP's (66-JJ), AQ, maybe AJs, KQs, QJs, JTs and pretty much that's it - rest of sooted crap he will probably fold or sometimes turn into 3bet semibluff (if he has any idea about mixing up ranges).

    I really don't want to valuebet this board with mid strength hands, because nittag won't pay off me multistreet with KTish crap. SPR sucks for one pairs, I also don't want to c-bet AK-AQ, actually no better hand folds, and worse hands may bluffraise. (edit: well,against fit or fold, AK,AQ,AJ can be c-bet too).

    Bet range:
    bet/fold as (semi)bluff: KJ, QJ, unpaired A2s-A9s, all small connectors that whiffed totally
    bet/fold for value: JT, QT, JJ
    bet/call for value: TT, 66, 55

    Check range:
    Chk/fold: AK (sd value, hoping to go check/check)
    Chk/raise and stackoff: KK, AA, 65s (to protect c/r bluffs)
    Chk/call stab inducers: AT, A6s, 77 ,88, T9s
    Chk/raise bluff: AQ, AJ, KQ, 78s, 98s,


    The turn pot is 17.5 big blinds with 92 big blinds behind. The turn card makes the board T 6 5 J . Hero bets 13 big blinds [3] and the BU calls
    .

    I bet {QQ, TJ, JJ, TT, 66, 55, KJ, QJ} for value
    no barreling air, he's not a floater

    The river pot is 43.5 big blinds with 79 big blinds left behind. The river card makes the board T 6 5 J T . Hero bets 26 big blinds [4], and the button folds.
    Bet {TT, JT, JJ, 55, 66, QQ}, with folding QQ to raise

    It's pretty much nut range but it's only because I refused to multibarrel and moved my middling range to "check flop". Actually, 55/66 it's not that "nut" vs nit's river raising range, because he'll have bigger boats majority of the time.

    We're going to use our answers in a later exercise.
    Last edited by Vrax; 09-19-2010 at 11:03 AM.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
  2. #2
    [1] My 3xBB bet range here would be {99+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,75s-74s,64s+,53s+,43s,AJo+,KQo}

    Some of these hands typically would be limped if I didn't know the BU was a nit, but I'd raise to try and keep him out of the pot/isolate him or the blinds for HU. I'd also limp other PP's and some other random connectors since most often the BU is going to fold anyway.

    Since the BU called I can assume that his range of hands has become significantly smaller, most likely JJ+, AQo+, AJs+, maybe small suited connectors, but this is highly situational depending on how he acts on the flop and I'll re-evaluate then.

    [2] Since I was the original aggressor I would put in a c-bet with the majority of my range since most of the villain's assumed range isn't hit. So here I would continue with
    {99+,AQs+,ATs,KQs,KTs,QTs,JTs,74s,64s+,53s+,AKo}

    With the villains call on the flop I would tend to become a bit more worried about what hands he could have and would put him on either a straight draw, an overpair, or I would rethink about his range and possibly give him a set of tens. Given his nature of fit-or-fold most likely a set, but I'd wait to see what the turn brings.

    [3] At this point since villain has called, the majority of my range turns into a check and hoping for the free card. My remaining betting hands are {KK+,JJ-TT,JTs} The remainder of cards I have to bet with here will cover most of villain's range as far as overpairs are concerned, JJ and TT give me a nice set on the turn (TT beforehand), and JTs give a nice two pair, also lessening the chances that villain has made a set with either of those cards since there are only two combinations of cards that would give him sets with either tens or jacks and would defeat his overpair.

    [4] In this spot I would check with AA and KK because they have lost a lot of value with the pair of jacks on the board so those have been eliminated out of my range. Since {JJ-TT, JTs} would all give me boats I would go ahead and bet out on all of them and just hope for the best. The bet size makes sense in this case since we most likely have the nuts and we'd like it called rather than to scare him off with too large a size bet.
  3. #3
    The bet-sizing influenced my range a little, but this is it in essence.

    [1] 22+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,J9s+,T9s,98s,87s,76s,A8o+,KTo+, QTo+,JTo
    [2] 22+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,J9s+,T9s,98s,87s,76s,A8o+,KTo+, QTo+,JTo
    [3] TT+,66-55,AsKs,AsQs,AJs-ATs,As9s,As8s,As7s,As6s,As5s,As4s,As3s,As2s,KJs+,Q Js,JTs,Ts9s,9s8s,8s7s,7s6s,AJo-ATo,KJo+,QJo,JTo
    [4]TT+,66-55,AJs-ATs,JTs,Ts9s,AJo-ATo,JTo
  4. #4
    [1] opening range is: 22+, A6s+, JTs+, QJo+, T9s, 98s

    [2] 55+, Tx+, Any nonheart suited, any A. Figure I'll see a fold many times.

    [3] 55, 66, TT+, Ax spades, JK+

    [4] 55, 66, TT+, AT, AJ, KJ
    Last edited by PhoenixRising; 11-06-2010 at 10:21 PM.

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