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    Formatted and did a slight edit to make this readable. I believe that there is value in this post.



    It is a known fact that Microstakes and a lot of SSNL regs do a lot of things poorly. This post addresses barreling. A decent reg at our level opens in the BTN and we flat in the big blind with some hand that’s too strong to 3b bluff. We flop TPTK OOP on something like J92tt and we have AJ and are trying to extract maximum value.

    We snap check because we want our opponent to bluff, which they do often in this spot. This example applies to the flop because a lot of regs at microstakes are going to be cbetting a ridiculously high % of flops vs. you because we're a reg. Therefore, we know how to fold. When this is combined with the fact that they have a hard time reading flop textures so they just cbet when they don't know what to do tbh.

    Great, we c/c and the turns an 8o. One of the biggest leaks that I hear about right now is regs not barreling enough. Meaning that checking here and “hoping” that they continue to bluff works only if he maintains aggression a decent % of the time, which many regs don’t. Given that he's cbetting flop like 80-85% of the time against us, he has a ton of air in his range that cbets flop, but he'll usually recognize this as a very bad card to barrel vs. us without equity so he checks back with a lot of air.

    Thus, the turn is a good time to lead for value because he’s checking back a lot of worse hands with showdown value that will call a bet.

    Now let’s say that the turn was a Qo. We notice that BTN is fairly fishy, but not a massive drooler, so his opening range doesn't have a lot of Qx(maybe just AQ,KQ,QJ,QT,Q9s). Along with Qx, he still has QQ+, 22, 99, and JJ that beat us. He still has AJ, KJ, JT, J9s, A9, K9s, T9, 98, 97s, 33-88, (and I guess some AT/KT type hands) in his range with showdown value that we're trying to get value from by leading. Leading here is pretty thin with just those hands in his range, maybe even -EV because river is hard to play (we get less value and we're OOP). So we have the option of leading river if turn checks through, which seems like a super duper amazing idea because we're pretty much always ahead once he checks back turn.

    However, there’s a part of his range that we haven't really addressed yet because we have discounted it somewhere. We do get value from FD's sometimes if we check here(given this is villain dependent), but most/many regs at microstakes will mash call with FD's here. So we do get more value from just betting. The reason why betting is better than checking if villain is still betting when checked to is because he's not betting a range that isn't calling. So adding FD's into his calling range, leading 2nd pair here seems +EV in a vacuum from what i understand(not taking into account future betting being OOP).

    Sorry that this thread doesn't really have a defined lesson behind it, or paragraphs/subtitles for that matter, it's just going through some thought process that could be done in real time instead of autopilot trying to get to showdown because overcards are bad and we're playing too many tables.
    Last edited by !Luck; 12-27-2010 at 04:59 PM.

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