Quote Originally Posted by rpm View Post
PTW, i don't want to come off harshly because you've already taken somewhat of a beating in this thread. but your poker logic seems to be hugely misguided here.

- you advocate folding on the flop when we have damn near enough equity to shove all the money in for value.

- you advocate folding the turn when we have enough equity to make a +EV call against basically any range except something like {TT,88,97}, and he doesn't have 12 of the 16 combos in that range in his preflop or flop range anyway (namely 97). and he certainly has weaker hands than these in his range, like JJ+.

for a bit of perspective, even if we somehow knew for certain that his range was TT,88,JJ - it would be a +EV call. obviously the more overpairs we add in, the less statistically likely it is that he has a set, and the more equity we have. same can be said for AhKh, AhQh type hands.

- and you seem to be stating that you would take certain actions x% of the time in this spot - these spots are +EV 100% of the time, not just 60% or 40% or whatever %. don't rob yourself of the value by only doing something x amount of the time. determine the EV, and then play your hand accordingly. all the time.

for what it's worth, the only possible way we can really badly fuck this hand up after the flop comes down is if we fold at any stage, any % of the time.
for having the patience to write all that out. I apologize for my snappish one-line replies when clearly a long, clear explanation was what PTW needed in order to be of real help.