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    How not to grind back out of the micros

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    you should list the 3-5 biggest things that you think you are doing wrong.
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    jyms - post some stats + hands that come up frequently that you may be a little confused on what the best play is
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    Biggest issues for me are not playing properly during variance(tilt), button smashing (too many hands), lack of study and not thinking enough during hands. My old habits of playing robotically are very hard habits to break.I will post some stats though soon. I think I need to post my last 50/100K hands. I'm willing to bet there are very few changes in my play over that time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post
    Since moving back to Stars

    What about position stats, cbet% and cbet success%?

    I'd cc less preflop and maybe even in general play a tad tighter in early positions depending on your stats. A 30min video would be cool too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmind View Post
    I'd cc less preflop and maybe even in general play a tad tighter in early positions depending on your stats. A 30min video would be cool too.
    This. The CC% is a huge issue. Also steal more from LP/SB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos View Post
    This. The CC% is a huge issue. Also steal more from LP/SB.
    Regarding CC% and Co/Bu/Sb steal numbers what sort of numbers do you think he should be looking for overall?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacks View Post
    Regarding CC% and Co/Bu/Sb steal numbers what sort of numbers do you think he should be looking for overall?
    CC% def below 10, but prob 5% would be optimal for him? That said, the better you are postflop (creativity, hand reading, etc) the more you can afford to just call a wider range pre.

    CO/BU/SB : Like bikes mentionned, his SB steal success % seems rly high, so selectively start stealing a lot more and get it up to 50% or so. Steal 90% from players that fold a lot, then just c/f lot of bad flops, until they realize.
    CO like 35%, BTN like 60%. But again do it selectively, based on the players in BTN/SB/BB.

    *These steal % could be a bit too high if you're not used to having trash that often, so stick to what you're comfortable at and gradually increase these. The only obvious one is to increase the SB steal, based on the success rate it's been getting.
    Last edited by Alexos; 09-20-2012 at 02:43 PM.
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    earlier stats

    Quote Originally Posted by jyms View Post

    Wow, not cold calling is hard. Particularly when it's such a habit vs bad players that stack off with TP like it's the nuts. I do know a lot of places to work on this that I am still doing it out of bad habits though. I think overall I have taken what's been said and started doing better.

    This is since I posted
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    your sb steal success looks pretty high and you're opening somewhat infrequently. I'd focus on spots where you can steal more vs nittier players here because its def a spot you are leaving money on the table.
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    VPIP and PFR gap is way too wide for micros. Basically any +eV edge you'd have normally is just getting eaten away by rake so you have to cut cold calling IP out quite a bit. I would say 3b anything you want to play IP and just fold everything else would be a better strategy then cc/3b/fold like you normally would except in obvious spots where there's a huge fish who doesn't overcall 3bs(this usually isn't the case) but will cc a2c
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    [03:12pm] [bickes] jyms
    [03:12pm] [bickes] cold call % is still way too high
    [03:12pm] [bickes] steal numbers look better
    [03:14pm] [bickes] and heres not here
    [03:14pm] [bickes] annoying
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    I notice that my VPIP and PFR have got closer as 3bet mentioned which I think is good. What's interesting is in CC'ing less (although still too much) I'm actually playing more hands which is probably from the 3betting more in the blinds and IP not always with hands I would even CC. I need to drop my CC% and keep my 3bet ranges as they are, then my VPIP/PFR should be lower as well. I'm not sure playing 27/24 at the micros is viable over the long term for me and definitly not with a 10% CC
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    All I know is it's great to see a few higher stakes posters in the BC posting about differences. Thanks for the comments guys.

    Something 3bet said was very interesting that I haven't ever seen put into words before and is exactly what I was trying to find earlier when searching for clues to beat the rake at the micro stakes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet View Post
    most players should avoid coldcalling as much and focus on 3bing(since no rake is paid
    I think that this might be something I was missing in my thought process as to why I was calling so much as opposed to 3bet/folding most hands I CC.

    As Alexos is talking about, I am confient in my postflop abilities vs any decent player at any stakes $100NL and down. But there are inherent problems built into the micros that need to be addressed. Rake, and a huge difference in FE vs most players.
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    you forgot the second apostrophe in the title

    "shit's and giggle's"
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    Quote Originally Posted by eugmac View Post
    you forgot the second apostrophe in the title

    "shit's and giggle's"

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