Quote Originally Posted by Lukie
Quote Originally Posted by siknd
yes. i didnt want to take a flop five or six handed out of position, thats why i raise. ive been raising out of position with hands like these a lot more than i used to. for one, i dont like playing in unraised pots to begin with, and at the end of the day, i do have a strong hand.

the flop IS perfect for me, and i believe i have the best hand, only vulnerable to a flush draw. i think that by checking after open-raising pf, i can represent either a missed AK, or underpair nervous about the Q. i am hoping to induce the button to bet, and checkraise (amount dependent on whether or not SB calls along). i think this is the right play, since its a situation where im EITHER way ahead, or way behind (except to the flush draw, id be about even against say the king high flush draw: flush outs and over card. im not worried about the flush hitting the turn because of my redraw anyhow).

however, my plan has to change when the minraise comes out of the SB. i couldnt see him making that play with big spades because surely he would want me to come along. and while KQ was a possibility, i really really thought he had 66 or 55.

maybe it was a weak fold, but the results speak for themselves. what is your opinion?
I think you should check preflop.

I also think leading the flop is better then trying to inflate the pot OOP by c/r'ing with such a lukewarm hand. Results mean nothing at this point because action hasn't been on other players. This is definately not a WA/WB situation.

Given that you checked, I think folding is the best play.
damn. you think youre doing something good, but within the good-ness are hidden mistakes.

thanks for the viewpoint, noted.