Session Review

Originally Posted by bikes

WEIRD AMERICAN ACCENT IS IT?

Indeed. All American accents are weird.


@cobra-

Setmining vs wide ranges is generally bad because when we setmine, we need implied odds. We need to win an average of 9x our pre flop call to justify the call. We're not going to do that vs someone who has lots of suited connectors and small pairs that miss a lot. Sure, if we know he stacks top pair, then it's better, but I don't just make that assumption based on stats, I need to see him actually doing it.

Not that I'm folding the 22 pre, I just think we probably should. I can't help myself, I'm like "well it's 20 fucking cents", but we then need to win, on average, $1.80 before we're making money. Usually when we hit the set it's a smaller pot, but when we stack him we make $10, unless he has better.

Generally, we want to be setmining vs people whose range is heavily weighted towards QQ+, or people who cannot fold top pair.

@miffed-

Re: AQ... This overbet looks a lot to me like someone who has a boat and thinks we have a flush. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not folding because maybe he has a flush or jack, but I'm not comfortable enough with that idea that I'm happy to get my stack in. vs this guy maybe he calls a jack to the shove, and if so then shoving is fine. But this bet does not look like a jack, not after this river. Not unless villain is completely retarded. And if it is a jack, or a flush, he really should fold to a shove. If we have reads that he doesn't, well then I like the shove. But I think he has a boat like always. He doesn't seem to be scared of the spade. I call because I level myself into thinking he has flushes as well as boats. I don't think he has a naked jack.

Same with the 22... this turn shove is usually a flush. I'm folding, though I'm not happy about it obv.

The JT hand... this overbet is nearly always tp+, I'm expecting to see J7 and stuff like that way more often than like middle pair or whatever we beat. The JT is an easy fold to me on the flop. As played, river is a call I guess.

If we're seeing these villains overbet a lot, then it's different. Without that read, all three of these overbets are strong, very strong, to me.


I'll add I posted first in this one because I really didn't want to be influenced by posts by people like bikes, m2m, treebet and surviva when I assessed these hands. I get that I'm probably way off the money.