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    H1 is probably a fold pre, utg stats in this position are of the utmost importance. I make this call all the friggin time, and everytime I do, I hear bikes' weird America accent in my head saying "wtf? this is a fold, against anyone". I'm an idiot, I'm addicted to setmining because binking a set is almost as good as a spliff and cuppa. Ok if you know for sure utg has KK+ only, then yeah setmine this spot all day long. Like I say, utg stats are important. But that range is very unlikely. Button is wiiiide as fuck so setmining him is just plain dumb.

    As played, yeah puke is correct. This looks like a pretty easy fold to me, mathematically speaking. Never easy to fold a set in practise though.

    JT hand, fold flop to this bet.

    AQ hand is pure spew on the river. Fold flop, or raise him. As played, jfc just call river. In fact river might even be a fold, though I doubt I actually fold.

    AK hand I'm calling river, and prob checking turn too. Again, river might be fold to this sizing.

    99 hand looks standard to me vs this muppet.
    Last edited by OngBonga; 08-28-2012 at 07:46 PM.
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    22 - pre is not always a call, but it is here cos button fish and 3x open means 2x and about 4:1 on the call flop check-raise seems better than donk, except it checks through reasonably often. Check-raise sees like you could get away with going a bit bigger. Turn is meh don't fold cos 20% vs the flush and he has 87, 99+ a non-zero amount. JTo - 57-27 how many hands? any postflop? I probably raise the flop for value here. River is a call as played. AQs - iso bigger cos why wouldn't you? River is fine cos naked jacks and weaker flushes call often enough and there is only one J8s combo. Hell, 99 calls sometimes. 55/33? gg AKo - cbet seems big. Call river 99 - Turn looks bet-fold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    H1 is probably a fold pre, utg stats in this position are of the utmost importance. I make this call all the friggin time, and everytime I do, I hear bikes' weird America accent in my head saying "wtf? this is a fold, against anyone". I'm an idiot, I'm addicted to setmining because binking a set is almost as good as a spliff and cuppa. Ok if you know for sure utg has KK+ only, then yeah setmine this spot all day long. Like I say, utg stats are important. But that range is very unlikely. Button is wiiiide as fuck so setmining him is just plain dumb. .
    Can you expand on this further? Why is setmining the button a bad idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra_1878 View Post
    Can you expand on this further? Why is setmining the button a bad idea?
    Because your typical Tagg player is not going to lose a stack with an overpair/top pair there is little value set hunting against a decent taggy player when you are in fit/fold mode as you can be with small PPs against ep raises (think about the strength) of your opponents range.

    However once a donk enters the pot that changes as they will lose their stack or bigger pots with much weaker second best hands. You therefore shouldn't be set hunting just because zomg I has pocket pair! But rather because your opponent will dump you chips when you make a set.

    This is why in many cases when you call pre with sooted connectors you are already beginning a bluff as you should play the hand in a simialr way to a set only it's your actions and equity that force your opponent into difficult spots et

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