Quote Originally Posted by zook
Just a couple from yesterday...

Villains tend not to believe c-bets on boards like this, but will fold everything but Q's and maybe AT+ to a second barrel.

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $347.40
UTG+1: $731.80
CO: $325.40
Hero: $416
SB: $771.90
BB: $405

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 8 7
3 folds, Hero raises to $16, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: Q A Q ($34, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $28, BB calls.

Turn: 6 ($90, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $64, BB folds.


And then if they don't believe your second barrel and try to steal the pot with a pussy minraise...

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $420
Hero: $197
CO: $54.25
Button: $360.20
SB: $510.95
BB: $80

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 4 4
UTG folds, Hero raises to $8, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: K J K ($19, 2 players)
Hero bets $15, Button calls.

Turn: 5 ($49, 2 players)
Hero bets $35, Button raises to $70, Hero raises all-in $174, Button folds.
Nice plays Zook. Couple of questions regarding how u decided to bet these:
Hand 1.)
I play at 100 NL, and I have learned at that level its futile to try to push people whom you don't have very good reads on off of top pair in spots like this, because people simply can't/don't fold (This is great for value bets, not so much for bluffing in spots like this). So did u fire here because u thought he was floating with air, or can u push most opp. off top pair/mediocre-poor kicker more readily at 400 NL in this spot. Did you have a read on the opponent that led u to betting out here? If he calls you quickly here and u put him on a weak ace how often are u betting/pushing river?
Hand 2.)
Hand 1 was a nice play, but Hand 2 I'm extremely impressed with (assuming the plays u make like this are successful a high percentage of the time). At least at 100 NL, when somebody calls u on the flop and miniraises u on the turn its a vast majority of the time (at least it would seem to me) a donk broadcasting to the world that he hit trips and wants to milk the hand for every penny he can get. I realize this is 6-max, so plays like this are more common. Was there a particular read u had on you opponent that made u think ur opponent was repping here and wasn't sitting on trips? If my opponent makes this play on the flop I might be more inclined to think it is a steal, but on the turn after calling on the flop and now miniraising, this seems like a strong play by the opponent. So what led u to make this play, and how do u determine when it is a donk with trips versus a bluff here by you opp.

I look forward to your insight.