Ring Games - Where do i start?

I am already registered with both ftp and poker stars and play all the time with them.
But i wanto make the transition into playing cash games.
Bonus i am not really worrying about atm.
So poker stars has the lower money levels then what full tilt does.

What is the maximum money you can put into the low level games, so i can build up a bank roll?
And what would the ball park figure be in terms of blinds per cash you have available ?

When do i know its time to move up?
Thanks.

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es-t74689.html

Don't start on FTP because the lowest level they have is 10nl. Micro-stakes are the way to start. UB has pretty soft 2nl tables, but there isn't a great selection there so I guess Poker Stars is your best option.

Originally Posted by projectaero

I am already registered with both ftp and poker stars and play all the time with them.
But i wanto make the transition into playing cash games.
Bonus i am not really worrying about atm.
So poker stars has the lower money levels then what full tilt does.

What is the maximum money you can put into the low level games, so i can build up a bank roll?
And what would the ball park figure be in terms of blinds per cash you have available ?

When do i know its time to move up?
Thanks.

go to the link that spoon posted.

start out on stars with a $50 roll - $2 tables.
general recommendation for NL is 20+ max buyins.
Some are a lot nittier than this. I keep 50 buyins for my current stake in my online bankroll, and don't feel any desire to move up in stakes at the moment - so i keep withdrawing instead...

I don't think you can be too conservative with BR management. Spoons guide is excellent if you know you're going to play your best game, and you try to build up a bankroll fairly quickly without too much risks.
When you ask most players here what they actually do, I think you will find out that many stay at one level for a long time, not because they are loosing, but just to withdraw some, pay bills and when they move up they likely have at least 50 buy-ins for the level.
At micro limits you probably want to move up fairly quickly, and I think Spoons guide offers a close to optimal risk-vs-reward factor.
I got my BR up to $1k for the first time yesterday playing 5NL when I crossed the mark - I usually play 10NL, but I was a little tired, and I just wanted to play a little bit for fun. And I think those are the things you need to do. Drop down when you're not playing your best, are tilted or play just for fun.

Originally Posted by oskar

I don't think you can be too conservative with BR management. Spoons guide is excellent if you know you're going to play your best game, and you try to build up a bankroll fairly quickly without too much risks.
When you ask most players here what they actually do, I think you will find out that many stay at one level for a long time, not because they are loosing, but just to withdraw some, pay bills and when they move up they likely have at least 50 buy-ins for the level.
At micro limits you probably want to move up fairly quickly, and I think Spoons guide offers a close to optimal risk-vs-reward factor.
I got my BR up to $1k for the first time yesterday playing 5NL when I crossed the mark - I usually play 10NL, but I was a little tired, and I just wanted to play a little bit for fun. And I think those are the things you need to do. Drop down when you're not playing your best, are tilted or play just for fun.

Wow. Even playing 10NL with a $1K roll is super-nitty, let alone 5NL.

Fair enough if you withdraw regularly to pay bills etc, but in that case I would argue that for the purposes of being rolled for your stakes your real "underlying" roll - the money you have to play poker with - doesn't include those withdrawals in the first place. But failing that, if you have beaten the lower limit over a reasonable sample (eg. 20K hands) and are reasonably confident in your game at that level, aren't you just dudding yourself by not moving up?

Disclosure: my roll is about $660 at the moment and I'm playing 20NL, but I plan to go to 50NL as soon as I reach $1250.