I have not argued or disagreed with any0ne in my time here

No-o-o, but you have ignored quite a lot, and reasserted your own view rather than accepting that you need to consider what some people are saying. In the pot odds thread I think you posted three times that you would not consider implied odds - that's the kind of argument I mean. And by saying basically my entire post was irrelevant to what you're looking for, you're still avoiding issues which clearly I, among others, think you should be approaching a different way.

Anyway, no flaming perceived. I still think you are blinkered and there are some big contradictions in your posts - you admit your experience is lacking so you instinct may be way off, but then you say you refuse to take important poker concepts into consideration because you'd rather rely on feel - I don't understand how you can hope to improve! It's fine to do something badly as long as it's part of a learning and practicing process which will enable you to do it better in the long run.

And as for feel in both instances, I can only work with what I have got: be it 5,000, 20,000 or 100,000 hands. Yes?

No, not really, not at first. You say you prefer to rely on feel but until a certain (arbitrary, undefinable) point, your instinct is likely to be more informed by half-understandings, anecdotal evidence and several understandable but incorrect beginner assumptions(1) than it is by experience, and so you should stick *more* closely with the mathematical aspect because it's the only infallible ammunition at your disposal.

As for EV, yes, you're right, no-one works out actual mathematical formulae on the spot, but you still must learn what it means and how it shapes your moves, not just in bet sizing (though damn, this is an area I totally need to work on myself)


(1) I'm happy to go into what s0me of these assumptions are - indeed, I am still making some of them after 250k hands - if it'd be useful.

(My intention is absolutely not to be rude or patronising, btw, I just know what it's like to think "yeah, I've got the hang of this poker lark" when you're only scratching the surface)