Quote Originally Posted by Thunder
I was in an MTT yesterday where my flush, straight and straight flush draw (12 outs) was bested by AA in an all in situation after the flop. I posted the hand for analysis in the MTT section.

And this got me thinking.

The 12 outs gave me approximate odds of 49% and a coin flip scenario after being priced in. If that straight had been open ended then I would have had 15 outs after the flop and that equates to roughly a 60% chance of winning the hand. In fact, I read that if you have 15+ outs, you should go all in regardless.

So if I have a 60% chance of winning, then that means AA has just a 40% chance of success. But even though the maths adds up, and tallies with the calculations you see on TV and stuff, I just can't see how AA can be such an underdog in this situation.
the maths dont lie. combo draws are AA's worst enemy. well, that and "sethunters." lol.

AA can be meat post flop...just like AK. however, you dont stop raising it pf because you fear a bad flop. it will still be your biggest winner overall.