Quote Originally Posted by yorib
If you were to raise it to like 8-12xbb you should be able to narrow the field down to 1-2 people
8-12 Bb would almost certainly rep a powerhouse hand but its quite a bit overboard if you ask nme. Just go for the standard 4x (mayube + 1 per limper) and see what happenes thjere)

If you are really getting called too much preflop (and on the flop) then just forget about making a hand preflop. Provided you are playing people who will call with marginal hands (on the flop too) then you should be seeing plenty of flops and betting shitloads when you hit IMO.