Quote Originally Posted by Vi-Zer0Skill
Quote Originally Posted by martindcx1e
Quote Originally Posted by Geanosssss
I've found that at low stakes floating flops is very proffitable, as a lot of the low-stakes donks tend to min-bet with air or with a very small peice of the flop. They may make another min-bet on the turn, although 80% of the time a raise will make them fold.
Note that I play sit-n-go's not cash games. And that this topic is very situational and the question very general.
This topic is about cash games only.

Quote Originally Posted by Geanosssss
Quote Originally Posted by martindcx1e
Quote Originally Posted by Vi-Zer0Skill
Raising with K-Qo on a 7c-7d-2h flop is better than doing so with 5-5, for example. This is because when you raise the flop you are essentially forcing villain to continue only if he has a pair/set(a made hand).
Raising with any hand here does the same thing. Overcards don't accomplish this better than a small pair.
I think your missing the point here...
I don't think so...

I haven't done a great job explaining my point. Here it is again;

when you raise with 5-5 on a 7-7-2 flop, you are basically turning your hand into a bluff. This is because when you get called you are almost never ahead, and way behind any hand that is ahead of you (~8%). However if you raise with K-Q and get called, you are almost always behind but have 6 outs and 2 streets to pick up a winning hand (~25%).

So, with a hand like 5-5, which is way behind a standard villain's calling range, floating is better since you have much better equity against his opening range. Plus if villain checks the turn, you can bet at the pot and win a high % of the time. If villain bets again it is an easy fold without reads. With K-Q you have much worse equity against his opening range and so, while folding is a viable option, raising sometimes is good too since you aren't as far behind his calling range.

Still poorly worded, but one way to consider this is that since 5-5 has some showdown value you don't need to raise the flop (it is essentially a bluff). Villain will almost always check the turn with overcards, and then acquiring the pot becomes more profitable since you win a higher % of the time when you raise the flop. Having the worst hand also becomes cheaper since villain will usually value bet the turn with a strong hand (7-x, J-J+). Floating overcards is not as good as raising, since you have almost no showdown value with say a bare ace, but raising isn't terrible since you will get a fold a good % of the time and you aren't WB villain's calling range.
I completely agree.

imo two other interesting situations are;
1. PFR checks to you on the flop, hero......checks behind?
2. PFR bets flop, hero calls. Villain checks turn (fairly blank board)...hero checks behind and calls any reasonably river bet.